So what’s the low down on Excell Foam? Who are they? Where are these blanks coimg from? They are now being sold in the Northwest.
http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/Product_Catalog/Blanks/blanks.html
We’ve got foam! At last after months of anticipation we now have foam to sell. We are carrying Exell Blanks and DPS Foam. Exell blanks are a high quality polyurethane blank that has good cell structure and is a bright white. DPS Foam is a high quality virgin EPS foam with shapes based on Clark Blanks rocker templates and outlines. More on each foam below.
Exell Foam Blanks are a bright white polyurethane foam that is suitable for use with unsaturated polyester resins and epoxy resins. Excell Foam is a uniform density foam, which alleviates concerns related to over shaping. Our first shipment contains 7 different sizes, however we have already placed an order for our 2nd container which will have 14 different sizes in it. Additionally Exell Foam is working with some of the leading shapers in the industry to develop a full range of sizes. Foam density is similar to Clark Foam Superblue.
Item#
Description
Price
P85-0608
6’8" x 21 5/8" x 2 11/16" with 1/4” Bass Stringer
$ 77.89
P85-0703
7’3" x 23 5/8" x 3 1/4" with 3/16” Bass Stringer (similar to 7’4”R)
$ 81.76
P85-0710
7’10" x 24 1/2" x 3 1/2" with 3/16” Bass Stringer (similar to 7’11”R)
$ 84.38
P85-0804
8’4" x 23 13/16" x 4" with 3/16” Bass Stringer (similar to 8’4”H)
$ 91.50
P85-0810
8’10" x 24 11/16" x 3 1/2" with 3/16” Bass Stringer
$ 104.65
P85-0903
9’3" x 25" x 3 1/2" with 1/4” Bass Stringer
$ 116.88
P85-0910
9’10" x 25 3/16" x 3 9/16" with 1/4” Bass Stringer
$ 123.94
In Stock Now!
We’ve learned a lot in the past few months since Clark shut down. One of the areas that we have gained some knowledge in is with Styrofoam Blanks. We are now carrying DPS Foam EPS blanks. DPS Foam blows billets of virgin EPS that are smaller in size than billets blown by large EPS foam users. The key differences between their foam and somebody elses are very important. DPS foam is virgin, with no recycled foam in the blank, what this means is that quality is very high and that the densities are accurate. Other foam billet blowers will throw in scrap from their cutting operations and often have a +/- 10% variance in density. For industries such as homebuilding this isn’t important, however for high performance surf craft this is critical. DPS blows their EPS into smaller billets. This too is very critical and affects the quality of the finished product in both its strength and in its ability to not absorb water. EPS foam consists of styrofoam beads that are packed into a mold and then melted together by injecting steam into the mold. When a large billet of foam is blown the steam has to travel a great distance and often the material in the middle does not get bonded properly. Improper bonding of the beads makes shaping harder (increases tearout) and allows water to wick through the board. By blowing smaller billets DPS Foam improves the bonded strength of the foam and its shapeablility. DPS foam has based its shapes off of key Clark Foam blanks. These blanks are suitable only for use with epoxy resins.
Item#
Description
Price
50-99
100+
P92-0620
6’2"F Virgin EPS Blank with 1/8" basswood stringer. Specify 2lb or 1.75lb density. Replaces the 6’2"C
$75.30
$69.93
$65.27
P92-0630
6’3"HP Virgin EPS Blank with 1/8" basswood stringer. Specify 2lb or 1.75lb density. Replaces the 6’3"R
$76.81
$71.33
$66.57
P92-0640
6’4"HP Virgin EPS Blank with 1/8" basswood stringer. Specify 2lb or 1.75lb density. Replaces the 6’4"R
$79.75
$74.06
$69.12
P92-0680
6’8"HP Virgin EPS Blank with 3/16’ basswood stringer. 2lb density, replaces the 6’8"R
$82.23
$76.36
$71.27
P92-0690
6’9" HP Virgin EPS Blank with 3/16" basswood stringer, 2lb density, stretched version of 6’8"R.
$82.81
$76.90
$71.77
P92-069A
6’9"F Virgin EPS Blank with 3/16" basswood stringer, 2lb density, replaces the 6’9"A
$90.35
$83.90
$78.31
P92-0740
7’4"H Virgin EPS Blank with 3/16" basswood stringer, 2lb density, replaces 7’4"R
$102.41
$95.10
$88.76
P92-0711
7’11"H Virgin EPS Blank with 3/16" basswood stringer, 2lb density, replaces 7’11"R
$111.47
$103.51
$96.61
P92-0840
8’4"H Virgin EPS Blank with 3/16" basswood stringer, 2lb density, replaces 8’4"R
$122.00
$113.29
$105.73
P92-0900
9’0"L Virgin EPS Blank with 1/4" basswood stringer, 2lb density, replaces 9’4"B
$147.61
$137.07
$127.93
Will Be arriving week of 3/13
wonder if its this:
Excel Foam Inc
PO Box 673
Cookeville, TN 38503-0673
(931) 528-5277
Business Category Types
Foam & Sponge Rubber, Rubber Crude
Excel Foam 6464 Halcyon Drive, Montgomery, AL 36117 (334) 215-3996
Exell has some water ski info . . .
they also do wakeboards . . .
http://www.waterskiexell.com/sito/prodotti/acqua/acquatot.html click on toys, and you get kneeboards (well not Greenough, probably for wake)
Chinese foam from the people who bought Walkers formula. I’ve heard that Rev Chem will be selling their blanks off the truck here in So Cal.
That’s what I thought.
but when are they coming to S. Florida???
The China blanks from what I have seen, Looks like a blank. The glue ups seem ok. The blanks are dense this is true! Plugs are poor. They are also noticably heavier and seem to have nickel sized pits througout the blanks. For the money I would look at alternatives, there will be blanks poured by the very experianced soon, and some are already available, if you know where to look. They also are priced a few bucks more than some of the High Quality Aussie foam I have seen. Hope this helps
I was just wondering where you saw the blanks from China? Did you get a chance to shape one? I’m distributing the Elova Foam from Argentina and wanted to compare.
The foam was purchased from Fsupply. I saw a few shaped blanks. I have also seen the Elova foam when I was in Hawaii. In my humblest opinion none of the foams I have seen come close to what a few of the Aussie’s are pouring. And for the price it’s a no brainer. Maybe if the price structure is according to the quality a certain foam may do well for a certain target market…Good Luck.
…I had been using ELOVA a lot…and is a poor quality foam…heavier, not custom rockers, one density, less plugs, heavier woods, MDI poor tight formula, etc…not good in he finish as usual in others foams…in my opinion, Surfblank or teccel (the same chemistry but Brazilian ones) and Burford are the top quality ones
I too have been using Elova alot (Its the only foam Ive been using) 1 weight? Everything I have ordered through Foam Florida has been the blanks that are the weight comparable to the Clark Superlight. I dont know if Its the Aerial weight or not I would have to check. But I have had a couple of problems with foam seperation from the stringer one on of my team riders boards! (that pissed me off to no end, but Ive had that happen with clark back in the day) I will also say this, anytime Ive had a poblem the guys (Justin) at Foam Florida have gone out of thier way to make me happy. Be it compensating me with another blank or crediting me for future order. Also they have stringerless blanks coming in next week which I will be getting some to glue up my own stringers with personal rockers in it.
Aloha
-E
Reverb,
I don’t agree that Elova is a poor quality foam. The foam is great, maybe a tad on the heavy side but it holds up better than the other foams you mentioned. As for the rockers and lack of plugs, these things are improving, not to mention MDI is a safer chemical to work with.
We have had our team riders on boards shaped with Elova for months and they barely have any pressure dings. One of our guys was going through a Clark board every 4-5 weeks. I’ll take a little extra weight if it means a stronger, longer lasting surfboard. Besides the only thing light boards are good for is doing airs, a manuever that has very little function.
I think the comment about Elova beeing a poor quality foam needs to be retracted. You are right it still builds a board. With all the new foam coming on line there needs to be a B.O.B rating (Best of Blanks) certain criteria that should be met for ICB’s (Individual Case Basis)
Diamond>>>>Ultra white, consistant cell size/density, High tensile strength, excellent hardness, perfect glue up, many plugs to choose from, readily available. Wont go out of business!
Gold>>>>>>> Whiter, good cell size/density, moderate tensile strength, good hardness, good glue up, some plugs, MORE COMING! Been doing it for a bit.
Silver>>>>>> Off White, acceptable cell size, some tensile strength, I think its hard but I have nothing else to refference but Clark, Dude whats the yellow stuff all on the deck? Bad plugs, I wonder if we are pouring this right?
OHH NOOOO> Yellowish turning brown fast, whats all those holes, feels like an old kitchen sponge, the glue stained the foam, are these for sailboards?, The containers on its way, Found a formula posted on-line or purchased an older formula from someone who spent many years trying to produce a high quality blank.
I give Surfblanks a B.O.B rating of Diamond!
How do the other’s rate in the opinions of those who have used them?
Again no disrespect intended just like to know whats out there, and this is a great source of info.
Oh yeah a guy called me from a new company called shooting blanks, dont know what happened to him. Anyone seen the product yet? They are in SoCal.
…meanshapes, I dont understand your sentence about to be retracted to Elova …and then you say that Surfblank are diamond rate?..
…ok I understand that you sale these foams, but the foam is still in the development stage…with MDI still you dont have the tight cells like the TDI s cells…
-I visited their factory in Argentina…
I visited the the Elova factory in December, and you’ve got to give the guys some credit. They’ve only been producing blanks for 3 years and they already have a solid product, and it’s only going to get better. If we’re using meanshapes rating system Elova definately deserves at least a gold rating.
Reverb, where do you shape, Brazil?
Just a friendly warm and fuzzy for those who have not experianced the luxury of working with really good foam. Of course I only take responsibility for my opinion. I’am not a surf supplier and my inventory is used mostly for myself and a few other’s that can appreciate quality and service in these times. Yes I do sell machined Surfblanks, and Yes they are (Diamond) one of the best foams available (my opinion ).
Little backround for over 2 years we have been focused on EPS/EPOXY. We would use Clark secondary. Myself and other’s recognized very quickly how much better Midget’s foam was in all categories. The foam is now readily available.
Black Monday. I opened my storage and low and behold a lot of yellow Clark blanks. I sold them to a guy in need and I’m still holding untill he picks them up in June. I also was allotted an amount from a Suplier which I considered purchasing only in the attempt to help friends in need. I sold the old stock for FMV and was willing to do the same for the alloted amount of Clarks I was promised. My intention was to get ahold of as much of Midget’s foam as I could afford. I could not consider spending more money on a product I felt was not as good and was fortunate to know the right guy’s willing to stick there neck out committed to providing us better foam than Clark…
So there it is,
Yes I have seen a good variety of the what I call the new foams.
Yes, Surfblanks, Burford, Bennett, are a much better product.
Yes soon there will be plenty of foam all different pricing and quality which will create debates, price wars, back stabbing you know CAPATALISM
Soon we will find out whats good and whats not.
Sooner maybe some of the new foam companies will be forced to sell out for pennies on the dollar they spent. Leaving more board builders in the dark, as they scramble to find easy distribution of a lesser product and false sense of security.
In the works. As always quality will prevail. Once more foams are available the accpetance of the Asian blanks will extinguish. The trade route containers once filled with foam will lessen to a point of not making financial sense. Who knows what commitments some have made at that point they probably will be going around asking people to private label their lifes work or just fill the void with more boards from the east.
I will continue to build my meager designs out of the best foam available and offer it to those who may care to experiance the joy of constructing the product we hold in such high regard out of Midget’s foam.
Some may settle, we will not.
Very lengthy but gots lots of time as I been outta commision for a week due to hip scope surgery. STRETCH! TAKE GLUCOSAMINE! Strength Train it will keep you in the water longer…
…right now in Uruguay…
I visited the the Elova factory in December, and you’ve got to give the guys some credit. They’ve only been producing blanks for 3 years and they already have a solid product, and it’s only going to get better. If we’re using meanshapes rating system Elova definately deserves at least a gold rating.
Reverb, where do you shape, Brazil?
Just a friendly warm and fuzzy for those who have not experianced the luxury of working with really good foam. Of course I only take responsibility for my opinion. I’am not a surf supplier and my inventory is used mostly for myself and a few other’s that can appreciate quality and service in these times. Yes I do sell machined Surfblanks, and Yes they are (Diamond) one of the best foams available (my opinion ).
Little backround for over 2 years we have been focused on EPS/EPOXY. We would use Clark secondary. Myself and other’s recognized very quickly how much better Midget’s foam was in all categories. The foam is now readily available.
Black Monday. I opened my storage and low and behold a lot of yellow Clark blanks. I sold them to a guy in need and I’m still holding untill he picks them up in June. I also was allotted an amount from a Suplier which I considered purchasing only in the attempt to help friends in need. I sold the old stock for FMV and was willing to do the same for the alloted amount of Clarks I was promised. My intention was to get ahold of as much of Midget’s foam as I could afford. I could not consider spending more money on a product I felt was not as good and was fortunate to know the right guy’s willing to stick there neck out committed to providing us better foam than Clark…
So there it is,
Yes I have seen a good variety of the what I call the new foams.
Yes, Surfblanks, Burford, Bennett, are a much better product.
Yes soon there will be plenty of foam all different pricing and quality which will create debates, price wars, back stabbing you know CAPATALISM
Soon we will find out whats good and whats not.
Sooner maybe some of the new foam companies will be forced to sell out for pennies on the dollar they spent. Leaving more board builders in the dark, as they scramble to find easy distribution of a lesser product and false sense of security.
In the works. As always quality will prevail. Once more foams are available the accpetance of the Asian blanks will extinguish. The trade route containers once filled with foam will lessen to a point of not making financial sense. Who knows what commitments some have made at that point they probably will be going around asking people to private label their lifes work or just fill the void with more boards from the east.
I will continue to build my meager designs out of the best foam available and offer it to those who may care to experiance the joy of constructing the product we hold in such high regard out of Midget’s foam.
Some may settle, we will not.
Very lengthy but gots lots of time as I been outta commision for a week due to hip scope surgery. STRETCH! TAKE GLUCOSAMINE! Strength Train it will keep you in the water longer…
…right now in Uruguay…