I was just wondering if anyone knew how I could install FCS plugs on my surfboard. What materials do I need, and how do I go about it? Thanks.
I was just wondering if anyone knew how I could install FCS plugs on my > surfboard. What materials do I need, and how do I go about it? Thanks. use red-x fins instead much better system
Any fin system you go with will offer an installation kit with everything you need. I think the only thing that FCS has going for it is that the tools are based on hole saws which fit in any drill. But as many people here will tell you, it is not the most durable system out there. And over the past year or so it has become more difficult for the garage builder to get fcs plugs. I had bought plugs and fins from them for 5 years, now they won’t sell to me. When they were small, they would sell to anyone. Other systems out there have different things going for them and are based around specific routers (that match their installation jigs). You can buy the router, or change the base of the one you have to match theirs. Consider things like how much it would cost to go with a particular system (tools etc.), and how much fins will cost. What kind of quantities are you buying (will it be worth the cost of a fin system vs. glass ons)? Will you be able to get materials you need down the road? And how easy is the installantion process? Maybe check out RED X, or the new one from Cylde Rodgers. You have options.
FCS is rather easy to install. Foamez.com sells a video about the FCS installation. They also sell the installation kit which runs about $160. That’s not including the fins and plugs, they will run about another $50. I have never had a problem with the FCS system. I like the variety of fins they have also. Go with whatever you fin most available. In other words, if your local shop only carries FCS, then your best bet is to go with that system… …
Mike or anyone interested, If you want Red X, tell your local retailer and we will find a way to make it available.
Check out Foamez.com, they have individual fins/plugs and they sell an installation kit for 150 bucks. It comes with all the bits, templates, plugs, fins and attachments for installation. Its pretty simple. If you are cheap like, uh, I wont say…You can get a set of jigs at a hardware store pretty cheap. Attach to your drill, cut out the holes where the plugs will go( assuming you know, that could add a few more paragraphs here)about 1/16" larger than the plugs total size, and use the putty they give you like q-cell and set the plugs like a fin box or leash plug. Crude, can look really good and it works if your’e real careful…
Tom: I’m fed up with FCS. Too many failures from others and some of my own. Am going to an oversize hole saw but I’m moving on to something else. Does RedX have some installation info online or on video? (I do still have a hard copy of the XCel vintage material that L.Block was sending out) Is there something more current? Herb’s RotoZip post got me wondering and I got a stack of boards in for repair from some guys who just got back from Ticla. Ready to switch! Tom Sterne>>> Mike or anyone interested,>>> If you want Red X, tell your local retailer and we will find a way to make > it available.
Tom:>>> I’m fed up with FCS. Too many failures from others and some of my own. Am > going to an oversize hole saw but I’m moving on to something else. Does > RedX have some installation info online or on video? (I do still have a > hard copy of the XCel vintage material that L.Block was sending out) Is > there something more current? Herb’s RotoZip post got me wondering and I > got a stack of boards in for repair from some guys who just got back from > Ticla. Ready to switch!>>> Tom Sterne…T.S./Tom@Daum,I have done some preliminary work/tests with great results.I can use either my standard routers(non-plunge)or my roto-zippy using a doorskin “bighole” guide,and a plexyglass “smallhole” guide (to have easier sighting).They’re temps.and I probably won’t use these guides anymore. >I have a friend “Eddie” working on a sheet steel double plate jig for the RED-X system.Eddie has made several things for me in the past from gun scopemounts ,custom fly tying stands, to my last center box jig, that is without a doubt the best jig I have ever worked with.He’s actually the real genius here.Without his resources,and willingness to build my little helpers for my projects,they would still be dreams. >>This will come together soon,when it does i’ll let you guys know.Tom@Daum should I buy the parts(boxes,fins,caps,screws,etc.) directly??? or from Brad’s??? Lots to come by way of photos,watch for it on the board page.Herb >>
If anyone is near Rhode Island or willing to take the trip I will put in RedX for you at no charge. The only thing you would have to pay for is the boxes, fins, and resin. 100% percent worth it. If you want RedX email me. RedX rules!!
Red X fins suck and so dosn’t Rhode Island. and you probably suck too. why would anyone want some kook like yourself putting red x fins in their boad? idiot!
Tom:>>> I’m fed up with FCS. Too many failures from others and some of my own. Am > going to an oversize hole saw but I’m moving on to something else. Does > RedX have some installation info online or on video? (I do still have a > hard copy of the XCel vintage material that L.Block was sending out) Is > there something more current? Herb’s RotoZip post got me wondering and I > got a stack of boards in for repair from some guys who just got back from > Ticla. Ready to switch!>>> Tom Sterne Tom Stearn, E-mail me at . We are about 100 yards down the street from Brad’s. Depending upon the volume Larry can usually work some kind of deal to get you into Red X. I am still very curiuos to see what herb has up his sleeve. I started mucking with a roto-zip. But, the bit size and plunge depth never seemed to work out. Larry provides Makita plunge routers with a 9" base to fit his jig. One real nice advantage is Makita’s brake to avoid dinging the board or jig. One way or another we will make it happen for you. Tom@DaumTooling
Tom Stearn,>>> E-mail me at . We are about 100 yards down the street > from Brad’s. Depending upon the volume Larry can usually work some kind of > deal to get you into Red X. I am still very curiuos to see what herb has > up his sleeve. I started mucking with a roto-zip. But, the bit size and > plunge depth never seemed to work out. Larry provides Makita plunge > routers with a 9" base to fit his jig. One real nice advantage is > Makita’s brake to avoid dinging the board or jig. One way or another we > will make it happen for you.>>> Tom@DaumTooling …first thing you need to do is dump the zippy bits for 1/4" router bits,and make a base for it.As far as needing a plunge,it’s not needed(at least the way i’m doing it).Herb.
FCS is rather easy to install. Foamez.com sells a video about the FCS > installation. They also sell the installation kit which runs about $160. > That’s not including the fins and plugs, they will run about another $50. > I have never had a problem with the FCS system. I like the variety of fins > they have also. Go with whatever you fin most available. In other words, > if your local shop only carries FCS, then your best bet is to go with that > system… > … FCS sells installation kits for $95.00 and fin sets with plugs for about $30.00, but you need a tax license and have to fill out a credit application.But any reputable business requires the same
I use whatever I need,or feel like using,and I can install most fin systems,be it ofishl,fcs,fu,and now red-x…ultimately it the customer that will decide on what they want.I like the idea that I can do what I want when I want…I actually prefer the feel,and ride of a glasson(s) over any of the removables.Herb.
I use whatever I need,or feel like using,and I can install most fin > systems,be it ofishl,fcs,fu,and now red-x…ultimately it the > customer that will decide on what they want.I like the idea that I can do > what I want when I want…I actually prefer > the feel,and ride of a glasson(s) over any of the removables.Herb. Herb, Does that mean that you have installed Red X in a personal board? And if so, it sounds like you were not in agreement with my assessment that the bases of Red X are as secure as glass ons. Some people like the feel of hand laminated fins for over all flex characteristics. For them we do have fins available. But, as far as base rigidity is concerned I have always felt that all our fins are as positively attached as glass ons.
Herb,>>> Does that mean that you have installed Red X in a personal board? And if > so, it sounds like you were not in agreement with my assessment that the > bases of Red X are as secure as glass ons. Some people like the feel of > hand laminated fins for over all flex characteristics. For them we do have > fins available. But, as far as base rigidity is concerned I have always > felt that all our fins are as positively attached as glass ons.>>>>>>Tom, I have installed them in my personal board,but in all fairness I haven’t put them in any real surf yet.They do feel abit stiff to me,but like I said I need a good surffix to give a real opinion here.And,they’re are just as secure as glassys.Herb.
There are a lot of ways to adjust how they feel even in mediocore conditions. Changing positions, trying hand laminated or compression molded and mixing up templates all will affect how the board feels. But, hopefully we’ll get a decent SW around the 13th and then you can really push them.
Red X fins suck and so dosn’t Rhode Island. and you probably suck too. why > would anyone want some kook like yourself putting red x fins in their > boad? idiot! hey Jon why don’t you suck my nuts. Don’t like RedX good for you go fix your FCS or something instead of saying stupid stuff on here.
This was posted by ES surfboards-“hey Jon why don’t you suck my nuts” I don’t know why you would want me to suck your nuts? Unless you are some kind of a Homosexual? I am not into that kind of stuff like you. Well as for red-x, the suck like you suck dick. Later Gay boy-Jon
I mean it. Get out. Nobody wants you here.