Finishing with sealer

General Discussion
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Hey Guys

Looking through the archives again as to sealing/finishing off my sanded hot coat boards.

I used to do a speed finish with clear acrylic laquer with flattening agent.

I don’t want to do that anymore because I now do my boards in my garage and dont want to get dust and overspray on everything.

I read a lot about guys using future floor polish/sealer or something similar.

But, we don’t get future here in Australia. (well I can’t find any)

So what exactly do you guys use???

Is it a sealer as in a clear coat or is it a polish to polish what is already there. (sanded hot coat)

And, What product do all the Aussie,s use and where do you get them???

I went up to Bunnings and talked to the paint guy, and he showed me a sealer and a polish.

So now I am confused.

Also, can you use the same product with epoxy and poly???

Cheers

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Hey guys

Well after doing a google search I came up with this link which is a models site that uses future floor polish to finish off their model cars and thing.

It lists all of the future’s equivilent product names from all over the world.

In OZ its about $15- AUD for a 1 ltr bottle from bunnings, woolworths and coles

http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

One thing I would like to know is that I am pretty sure it leaves a gloss or semi-gloss finish.

I saw in my search that the model guys use a flattening base that they get from their model paint suppliers.

But the flattening base only comes in 23ml jars.

Do you guys that use future use a flattening base and if so what do you use??

Or do you guys give it a fine sand or scotch pad to get speed finish???

Cheers

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I just did an epoxy longboard with future. It’s pretty cool/simple…but doesn’t have the depth of a nice pe gloss coat…then again, I lost fewer brain cells doing it and I’m a hobbyist who’s not too hung up on perfection (mostly cuz I’m not capable of it!). pic below:

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Hey Guys

Well I just bought some Pledge from woolies.

Evan cheaper than I thought $4.72. Bargan.

I have just sanded a small section of one of my old boards so that some weave was showing and gave it my first coat.

I will give it a few coats and see how it turns out and how many coats it takes to give it a good depth of cover.

Will get back after I have finished.

Cheers

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…man if you want a sealer

the only way is an speed finish coat…in a previous thread I told you what type is the best (why the best?, because is elastic and for plastic surfaces)

all these acrylic floor is a waste of money and time

check your floor how many time you ve got that finish?

if you want to experiment, ok

but if you want proved stuff, you need a double H Coat, a Gloss or a good speed finish coat

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Maybe it’s the way you apply it ?

Mine last for years.Herb

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How do you apply it herb??

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First it comes down to a good quality sealer…there are several types…concrete types are the most durable and longest lasting…a good floor sealer will work just fine for most applications.

A clean fine sanded surface…apply product with a cotton t-shirt type material or my fav a sponge.

Apply 3-4 thin coats letting each coat dry completely.Lightly scrunge pad between coats.

Apply a car sealer or wax (pledge furniture polish)and lightly hand or machine polish…That’s it…I have had many comps on my finishes.

If you want more details as to what and ? ask away.Herb

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Light scrunge with what??

Scotch pad?? fine sandpaper??

Have you done a matt finish with sealer??

If so, what did you use??

Cheers

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Yes scotchbrite pads…If you want a mat finish just scrunge it out after the final phase or use a waterbased polyurethane sealer in mat finish.

There are several types of mat finishes avaliable.Herb

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While on this subject (once again) anyone have experience using Minwax Polycrylic water-based sealer? I just bought a jug on sale at walmart. Figured I’ld ask while the subject was brought up.

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Yes,it works great.Herb

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Thanks Herb

You have been a great help.

I will put it to the test.

Cheers

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If you have some more Qs you can post or pm me.Herb

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Hey Herb

Do you get the same results with epoxy as you you would with poly??

I haven’t used epoxy yet.

That’s my next project.

Cheers

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Polyurethanes are King when it comes down to epoxy sealer.

The two bond very nicely.

You can use a simple waterbased pu found at your local hareware stores.Herb

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how about dolphin skin…isnt that some sort of sealer, never used it though.

i see two kinds, the acrillic sealer, and cutter protector(whatever that is)…

any body know what the difference is between the two?

i normally double hotcoat, or gloss… but im sure there are quicker, cheaper,lighter ways…to achieve the matte/sanded look…(but nothing beats a real gloss/polish)

but i dont really like the board to look like its has some sort of clear spray on it. i know scotch brite takes that away for the most part…

so lets hear whats the deal with dolphin skin…and the difference between the 2 types…if anybody knows, and i know someone does…

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I’ve heard that DS works…but it just seams to be an overly glorified/expensive car wax to me.

I rarely spray anything on.

There are others here that only spray it…if you do it correctly…you shouldn’t be able to tell if it was sprayed or not.Herb