The story behind the story is that G L could talk to us all about his epoxy at the molecular level but he too has to know his audience. Most would understand it here but you have to keep the conversation very simplistic if you ever want to sell the stuff in New Zealand.
LOL ,not gunna happen its three times the price of kiwi made resin, who already are world leaders in epoxy technologys and lean manufacturing in composites
you may have seen some of Nzeds resins in action when we took the americas cup
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Lastly, when did New Zealand become the gate keeper for what’s funny or not? Get back to your bowel of crickets before they get too cold.
we call them wetas
may have heard that name as well
ahh Nzed such a small talent pool how the hell do we do it
btw Nzed commedians dont require canned laughter
so here ya go ill open the can for your OTAY handle and witty rhetoric
its got all the subtleties of a 1950s american sitcom
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Hate pro surfing as much as you want. Then thank pro surfing for advancing materials and designs across the full range of surfboards.
how bout i thank the shapers and the local boat building suppliers for that!
cant think how the average pro surfer could figure out too much about tech and design
they still have points on the ends of there boards for fcks sake
how dumb is that
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Twice as long as silly claims to make one of his boards but, 5 times faster than he actually takes. I hope this helps.
If you don’t count making the foam but from layup/button push to quality control inspector between 5-8 hours depending on the board. The total days would be at least 5 until QC can give it a thumbs up. Like fine wine, there is no hurry to do it right the first time with surftech.
haha good one well i claim 8 to ten hours so your high tech advanced and well paid factory workers are not far ahead
unfortunately all the geniuses behind the surftech movement havent figured out to round the noses on their board designs
so you manage to fck it up first time in my opinion
I don’t want to turn huie in for the capital letters, swearing and personal attacks. That’s just being friendly from where he comes from according to silly. I have become numb to the attacks from down under. With a little therapy and a high colonic, multiple hot showers, the sense of being violated will fade over time. Give huie another chance.
But just to clarify, this topic was divulged in the firewire thread. If speed Needle doesn’t want to talk about it fine. But it seems he already has and I thought getting it out publicly would do us all some good.
this cant be a personal attack because i dont know who OTAY is and not quite sure if he/she qaulifies as a person
Not too impressed with your Thai phonetics Otay. Though I'm not too flash at them myself. If you know the manager of the Rip Curl factory up North PM me as he's a good mate of mine. Tim at the opposition factory (Lampang) has a Triumph Thunderbird I sold him.
“The west is the best” from The Doors
My funetics are just fine. It is not the hill tribes type but more of the city slicker. I will look for the triumph and tim.
I was hoping they had their build times under 10 hours, in my eyes that seems to be the nice round magic number to make these things profitable.
I know you’re just winding us up, but I gotta give Paul a bit of cred for his build times…
The point is that he is actually making top notch boards in quick order - without expensive automation!
If what you say is accurate, (no reason it wouldn’t be, i’m sure you know the inside of that factory intimately) then Surftech are building them slightly quicker than i’d guessed. Good stuff.
For a small workshop builder to even get into the same ballpark as that with only 1/1000th of the capital outlay is impressive in my book
the ultimate business model imo would be boardcad in the shop to cnc to composite board
under ten hours and local made
all for less then the cost of a surftech
anyone offering that service?
or for that matter
interested!
No need for cnc so quit wondering. the close tolerance blank needs less than 15 minutes of by hand tweaking to get to the desired spefications for the TL2’s. If you can’t find a size to suit you from the ST choices of boards you have a serious problem. Board cad is a waste of time.foam. and money. Too many hands in the pot to screw things up. CNC surboard cutting machines won’t fit in your living room either. You claim you can make them for less than a ST but you can’t polish a turd or make a living at it. Still interested???
cnc requires setup times (which could be spent hotwiring or power planer shaping by a cheap laborer)
low density cores require more fixturing
ST only needs to rough shape, the core conforms (compressed) to final shape during molding/pressing.
So for ST, CNC is not needed.
Molding is all about taking man hours out of making product when quantities justify making the mold in the first place. Like I said before, once you have the mold, its downhill.
Sorry, the TL2 series are not made that way. The near perfectly processed blank is made perfect by human touch. A skilled blank finisher gets the board to specs, then off to glassing and it’s not in the living room. Kind of like what many of you do now with close tolerance blanks except the ST foam is waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy better.
I have a custom longboard from a local designer that was made from an ST blank. Apparently he has access to the blanks because he has his molded boards done at cobra. He’s been raging about the blanks since he went there saying they were lighter, tougher and easier to shape than anything he could get his hands on in Hawaii and this was before the demise of Clark. I remember him paddling up and excitedly jumping off his cobra made board and telling me to feel the board so I could feel the blank. He also said you could never get these in the US because of the chemicals used to blow them were illegal here.
So far I’ve ridden it for about three weeks solid and haven’t felt anything different but this designer is known for making strong heavy boards for the north shore. I have dropped it several times on the rail so far with no damage though.