Whatever you predicted came true???
I think Mr Burger would have to make the call on that one.
Are you really Mr. Burger??? Oh, that’s your line, sorry. And hopefully he will come on and validate it for me one day. As it is…I am sure Bert is busy figuring out what to do since wasting so much of his time with Firewire. Who knows, your right, We should wait for Bert to make the call. However…my prediction was that the brains behind the tech wouldn’t be with firewire long nor get the proper credit. I think thats the case as it sits. Unlike others…I will say…I am not Bert Burger and do not claim to speak for Bert.
I have had enough plate lunches since last October to be able to plant the rail of a surftech McCoy nugget. Would I ride one? Why bother on the N.S. of Oahu. Maybe on the Texas gulf coast. Hey…you and I can find common ground on some things. The nuggets you see in the Surftech line don’t show the variety in which they come. This is one of the issues with a popout made to appeal to the masses. If they change it to more custom and quicker they may have something. I have nothing at all against the tech if they can improve the ride. Now for Mccoys in Hawaii. Hollow powerful waves is actually where they come alive. The more hollow the better for Mccoys. Always been a trademark of his. Aks Larry Blair, Cheyne, any number of local aussies that have ridden them over the years. They do work really well on the Gulf because of the shorebreaks with fast little pockets. When it’s mushy they float…but not much rides mush very well.
I haven’t read the warning on any website regarding the ride expectations but I am glad they are there because I would imagine it would be above and beyone any expectation I might have on that model. Try it before you knock it…the model works really well dispite what some think of the looks. The Warning is on Mccoy’s own site. It’s a warning that the Surftechs do not ride like the polys nothing more. Having ridden both…the handshaped ride better IMO. I just don’t like the way the popouts ride. Cheyne Horan actually loves the way the popouts ride in smaller surf. See it takes all types.
I wonder what fin box system the Sunova will be running now with all the “good vibes” with the FCS system on the FW? Berts from Oz. I suspect FCS.
I think most shapers have fallen back to old habits because of the huge access of PU blanks now. Luckily though the huge influx of eps or other non pu foam in the past year has got the customers pulling the wagon more so now than ever before. PU foam might be back but those who experienced EPS perfection won’t go back. I don’t think EPS is perfection. You will have to prove that one. I am not against any of the tech. I like some EPS. I have a 10 footer that rides like an 8’6’’ made out of EPS. My only point is that at this moment in time…it’s a poly world and nothing has proven to be so much better that the masses have jumped on board. I like that there is variety…I think that is one of the most positive things about the industry at the moment. Open minds to new designs and tech. Only the magazines remain in hype land on what folks should ride…driven by a few high paying customers.
Why retail boards when you can wholesale them?? It’s o.k. being the middle man, you make my surfboard world go round!!! I do wholesale them. I do both. Like I said…I am not the middle man. I own or control 100% of what I sell. I don’t like being the middle man…your building someone else’s future.
Lots of meaning in that statement epac…
Until Bert comes out as tells his tale, all of this are pure innuendo, speculation, and fabrication of other people’s belief systems. It’s quite possible that Bert has fulfilled his obligations and happy as a clam. It’s possible in a million different directions.
The bottom line is that the Firewire’s is in China and Bert will be OK.
If pictures tell a tale, surfer shaper diver
orchardman Bob Duncan’s truck cab speaks volumes. The underground lives!
Some people like thick, wide PU boards with advanced convex bottoms. Some like thin, flexible, disposable PU boards. Some seems to go through at least a couple of boards a year(like a friend of mine) while others last for years and year (like mine). A well built PU board can last a long time, however there are certainly a few boards made of PU that are either not well built or built not to last on purpose. Some think that epoxy and EPS gives them a strength and (swing)weight advantage. Last time I spoke to one of the best young surfers around here, he said he’d gone back to PU because the surftechs was too lightweight. I wish we would see Taj(or any other top pros) in small waves on a Sunova, just to see what that would be like. But the guy get’s paid to ride someones boards and I’m wild guessing that Bert don’t have that kind of money. Right now there are how many shapers pursuing the development of parabolic railed sandwich board? Compare that to the numbers of shapers having shaped PU and the number of years of experience. Once those numbers equal out some time in the future(if ever), maybe then we’ll know the potential of the design.
Somehow I though swaylocks was beyond the ‘my dad is stronger than your dad’ way of debating PU vs. epoxy.
Ride what you want. It’s all good.
regards,
Håvard
Some people like thick, wide PU boards with advanced convex bottoms. Some like thin, flexible, disposable PU boards. Some seems to go through at least a couple of boards a year(like a friend of mine) while others last for years and year (like mine). A well built PU board can last a long time, however there are certainly a few boards made of PU that are either not well built or built not to last on purpose. Some think that epoxy and EPS gives them a strength and (swing)weight advantage. Last time I spoke to one of the best young surfers around here, he said he’d gone back to PU because the surftechs was too lightweight. I wish we would see Taj(or any other top pros) in small waves on a Sunova, just to see what that would be like. But the guy get’s paid to ride someones boards and I’m wild guessing that Bert don’t have that kind of money. Right now there are how many shapers pursuing the development of parabolic railed sandwich board? Compare that to the numbers of shapers having shaped PU and the number of years of experience. Once those numbers equal out some time in the future(if ever), maybe then we’ll know the potential of the design.
Somehow I though swaylocks was beyond the ‘my dad is stronger than your dad’ way of debating PU vs. epoxy.
Ride what you want. It’s all good.
regards,
Håvard
Good one Havard…Heard any Royksopp lately? How is it going over there?
Long live the underground!!
Did silly move his glassing room to the pantry as noted on his last creation? I guess that is the opposite end of production manufacturing.
just for the postcure bitch
1984…
pom mai put …
yai phee-chaay doo …
took kon kao jai mai kup…
naay-jaang yark…
pom cha-laat phee-chaay ngoh mai talok…
talok mak .talok mak teet-sud . mai …
pom ja bai nar sunova raan surfboard baan thai …
sunova ja bai california …
LOL
regards
BERT
oh
i get it now
i think
1984…
pom mai put …
yai phee-chaay doo …
took kon kao jai mai kup…
naay-jaang yark…
pom cha-laat phee-chaay ngoh mai talok…
talok mak .talok mak teet-sud . mai …
pom ja bai nar sunova raan surfboard baan thai …
sunova ja bai california …
LOL
regards
BERT
Kaplah Bert… but we don’t all speak Klingon…
Have a good one!
surfers who have experienced the well of demension
free understanding know very well enough
what is said in any tongue or coda
words from bert of wa go farther
without descernable decoding by the
infidel hourds.
send three vegemite lids and 2.50 aus
get your decoder ring and understand all berts posts.
…ambrose…
assign numbers to letters and
switch consonants for vowels in order
rewrite in gaelic
translate into thai
write backwards
and there you have it.
the corps are still in the dark
with other plagerists
and nerdoists
no vegemite- it’s been banned by the FDA. Really.
Or Thai.
Khaaw hai chohk dee.
yea atomised got it …
heres the translation …
i cant speak about it …
i hope everone understands …
big older brother is watching …
dont want any difficulties with employer …
joking ? no not joking …
i am moving forward with sunova factory in thailand
sunova is moving forward to california …
end translation …
my whole focus at the moment is to get back on and make a living at the only thing i know how to do …
at some stage in the near future i will let everyone know exactly what i am doing but the above comments give a brief outline …
my goal for the last 20 years has remained unchanged , just hit a few bumps along the way , got a few scratches and cuts , but found a few short cuts as well …
i have enormous respect for the firewire team , and the professionalism shown …
i wish them every sucess for the future …
like the press release alluded, to , my focus and energy will be directed back to the Sunova brand and previous products …
i hope everyone understands that i wont be drawn out to make public statements …
as both Firewire and Sunova have got plenty of work to do…
my time with Firewire was productive and positive , and i am most grateful for the opportunities that have come from the time i was with them …
looking forward to an interesting future for the surfboard industry and surfing in general …
regards
BERT
I figured you got a good dose of the traffic here in SD…a look at the surf…and high tailed it home lol. Good luck in future endeavors Bert!
A bright and happy day indeed- Bert is thrilled to be doing his thing again and my mum won’t get arrested next month when she visits and brings me both vegemite and promite. Many thanks Janklow
No surprises here. FW looks top heavy with surfwear marketing types. So you have Shaper of the Year being told what kind of boards he can make, by guys whose main qualification is their ability to sell overpriced tee shirts. Can’t see Bert taking the exit package and playing golf for two years.
You’re only Shaper of the Year for one year, how do you get the production capacity to make the most of that rep in a short time? I don’t know about the US, but there’s a skill shortage in AU right now. Pretty hard to get guys to work in a surfboard factory for low wages when they can be a plumber or builder, surf when they like and make a ton of dough, or do six months in the mines and surf six months in Indo every year.
Muchas suerte Senor Burger.
always the gentleman dr. berger
I will still cherish my decoder ring
…ambrose…
the peanut gallery loves you
I kinda wonder about the brains behind that press release, I mean, Berts Big brother comments pretty much confirm the suspicion that they’d be shafting him badly. So, why did anyone from Firewire put such a transparent statement out in the media? Does’nt make sense hey? I’m no expert at marketing, but I figure the company loses a lot of core credibility with this, so why advertise that they dumped Bert? Gotta be something to do with that MP guy, because he seemed to have it in for Bert with that disclaimer a while back where Firewire practically disowned him. You think MP learned anything from peoples response to that? I would have shut the hell up about Bert. Pretty Dumb.