Hey Ghettorat, that is a good post. I got some valueblt information from you.
I agree about posting images when asking questions about mistakes or problems. I think some people have quite a bit of trouble posting images.
Well I knew I was screwed when the glass came in a beat up box. It wasn’t on a roll, just folded over about a thousand times. My wife helped me try to roll it up but damn it got pretty heavy pretty fast. 100 yds 60 in wide. I noticed some dark streaks on the glass as we tried to roll it up. It looks like it came from a dirty boat factory. Fits my style of boards shit on shit, or as dad would say shit on a shingle. Did seem like it took longer to saturate, and I had to work hard to get it saturated.
My bad Ebay is a roll of the dice. Got some good stuff at great prices, and an occasional burn.
John, I’ve done all sorts of stupid things making boards. I’ve dropped sweat onto the just sanded and ready for the next coat board. I can make really nice fisheyes. I cut out cloth (fabrics) and don’t worry about how clean or dirty they are and use them as inlays. So far they worked. I’ve used boat epoxy 4-1 and have boards that look 30 years old. Did an accidental foam stain once too. I started a mexican blanket style color job and catalized the resin too hot. didn’t get the resin pulled out enough and it starts gellin. Threw away the last bit of cloth I had, and had to squeegee all the resin off ASAP. Can’t complain though. I just finish um up and ride um.
Here’s my accidental foam stain. The deck has a nice fabric inlay. I had some really fun days “testing” this one, but I gave it to Oneula. I made it as a “you better survive a ruptured appendix” board.
I am a pretty big lurker on this site and I do not have any input on your "maybe I got crappy cloth" front but as for wondering if it was a bad move to let your stain cure before you put down your lam.
It was stated that the "Pros" don’t due foam stains and well that may be true in the sense that they don’t stain the foam but I know that there are many pro board builders that will coat a ploy board with a skim coat of resin with UV cure, let it kick and then lam the board as normal. This is usually done on team rider boards to keep weight down as the resin won’t soak into the foam on the lam.
It may not be something that is done on production boards but its not something that is looked down upon.
I am building a new tracker style board. I plan to try using tint and would like to do a foam stain as a deck inlay. I was wondering whether you use laminating resin or hot coat resin? Also are pigments or tints better for doing foam stains?
Also just like to say, that this site has been a great help with solving problems and finding info during learning to shape and glass boards
Just use lam resin. I havent noticed much difference between tint or pigment, Just use whatever you got lying around. Let it dry overnight, no worries.
Pretty much every board I’ve glassed over the past 4 years has been with WarpLite Cloth from Surfsource. Works just fine. I will soon be starting a new roll of Hexcel when I use the warp up.
No I don’t like them. I think most of them look pretty tacky. Shark country’s (pictured above) is porbably one of the nicest I ever seen, based on the photo. If you’re going to spread, roll, brush pigmented resin around on a shaped blank; Here’s a tip.----- Squeege as much of the excess pigmented resin off the blank as possible with a hard yellow plastic squeege. Only leave what is required to achieve the desired effect on the blank. And-------- You should laminate over it either after it has jelled or the next day. The latter helps in adhesion. Foam staims are definatly a Sways “Rage”. Saw a bunch of 'em at a Artsy Board show in PDX this past summer. Thought they looked pretty tacky and too over done. A kindergartner with finger paint could have been more creative. What did they use to make that finger paint out of any way?? Wasn’t it corn starch and poster paint?? Something like that??? Good Sways question. Maybe I’ll start a thread.
I did this stain directly on the foam with taped off pigmented UV resin. applied with a roller and took the excess off with a stiff squegee. It came out very clean, but definatly added some weight.
