foam stains and cut lap resin tints

Gents,

the plan on the batch of boards i have just shaped when glassing is to attempt a tinted resin bottom with a cut lap, then a foam stain ala MR ( http://markrichardssurfboards.com/blog/2013/11/paint-designs-squeegee-art/ )

Now i’m a little pressed for time and space so was thinking about doing the acrylic foam stain on the deck first then the cut lap second.

This way I can do all the squegee art in the one day then begin lam work the next day.

or will this cause issues like the tape used on the cutlap damaging the foam stain?

So is it better to do the cut lap first then the foam stain, wait 24hr to dry well then do the deck lam??

 

Any advice would be great since i’ve never done the acrylic squegee art, only taped off spray can jobs on the foam.

Hopefully in the next few weeks i’ve got some nice pics to add to this thread

Cheers

Alex

I’m not sure what you are trying to say and don’t feel like reading again to attempt to decypher so I will just assume that you want to hear this… Tape off your board up before hand and do your color work and then glass as normal. You can free lap if you want just be careful not to gring into your color work. 

 

Edit to add that I am a moron!! 

Do the foam stain on the deck,  then glass it first to seal it all and not risk the tape messing up your color work. Tape it off for your cutlap then glass the bottom. 

Thats not what he wants to hear.

Lam the bottom first, then tape and do the deck.

Youll want a high tack tape firmly pressed flat to the foam so your color doesnt seep under it.

It is better to do your cutlap first then do the acrylic stain afterwards.  Taping over a foam stain tends to pull up some paint.  I have had better luck doing a resin foam stain and taping over it, but it will take the same amount of time to cure as a cutlap.  Either way you are looking at the same amount of time.  If you kick your cutlap hot enough you should be able to grind the lap and do your inlay about 6-8 hours afterwards.

Hope that helps,

Austin

www.austinsurfboards.com

…hello, yes, do as you say: bottom resin color work with the cut lap, then tape the lap and do the paint stain; then glass the deck freelap.

I did this by doing the bottom / rails (cut-lap) lam with yellow first, then taping off the rails and doing the deck lam with epoxy resin swirl second.  It worked fine for me, I’m sure there are other ways, as you mention.

Huck - nice swirl job!

About foam stain: I think it’s just latex house paint?but I’ll ask my glasser though.anyhow, It’s a cost effective alternative to resin swirl. I think it’s tons better than a clear board bcuz its not going to yellow.

Time lag: he got it done in a hr I think?

I thought a proper foam stain was done with resin,and a paint job was exactly that… a paint job lol

heres my first one ,also first resin tint i ever done, for my girlfriends fish. resin tint cut lap, then resin foam stain with clear deck lam freelapped.


Nice board finsout! :slight_smile: did you use your fin to draw fish tail?

If my downloads work ok, you should be seeing some examples of custom order paint jobs.  These were glassed with free laps or cut laps, as in the case of the purple board.  You should follow what Austin said, do the bottom glass/cut lap first, sand the laps, then do the paint work on the deck and freelap the deck.  You probably know that glassing the deck first could substantially alter the rocker.   Here’s a couple of hints that might make your job go better, just my 2c…  First don’t forget to use white to seperate colors if you want a more spaced out design. (you get the idea from what Mark said on the vid).  Second, just like with resin, whatever hits the foam first is the primary color.  If you want a quicker dry time use less paint and try to put it on with a thicker flat nozzle.  (I’ve used thick plastic zip bags with a corner cut off to do this but that requires a bit of experience to get it right)  Wipe your squeege often too so you don’t muddy up the color.  You may have figured a lot of this out already so good luck and am looking forward to the pics!

PS:  For the poster who doesn’t do these often, even with paint, the foam will eventually yellow and shift the color of the artwork.



Thanks guys for confirming my thoughts!!!

The plan will now be:

1.Bottom cut lap

  1. grind laps

  2. mask up

  3. do squeegee art, then let dry

  4. freelap clear deck lam

Cheers!

 

Gentlemen - what type/brand paints are you using? The reason I ask is I found a site that has neon colors etc., but I want to compare prices. Tia

no i didn’t use my fin for the tail shapaholic,