footwork needed ?? .....

anyone else suffer from THESE ?

It hurts most in cold water , and also when having a warm shower after a surf .

‘Burns’ for hours afterwards .

sometimes increases to nearly DOUBLE the size [!] in these photo. [ My own portable golf ball ?]

makes wearing shoes difficult at times.


I have had this for as long as I can remember surfing, but ONLY on my ‘back’ foot’s toe…

…‘surfer’s bumps’? on a toe ?? […bunions ? benions?]

[not as hideous-looking , or obvious , as the old ‘surfer’s bumps’ people got on their knees from mal knee paddling days , I guess … but still plenty painful …]

Well, I hope no-one has lost their appetite now …

cheers !



  ben

Hmmm…you don’t suffer genital swelling at the same time I hope?

I have similar ‘bumps’, but they don’t swell up and neither do my genitals.

Is the skin around your toes tough?

My professional opinion is the bumps are caused from pressure exerted onto the big toe from the surfboard, they get a bit waterlogged and then the cold water aggrivates the blood cells near to the surface of the skin resulting in chill blanes (also more painful when you go from the cold to a hot shower).

Does it happen in warm Summer water as well?

very interesting…

Dammit Chipper!

I told you to wear thongs in those showers!

But would you listen to me?

Nnnnnoooo…!

It was all “You’re so paranoid, Doug”.

Well, who’s paranoid now. Huh? Huh?!

:wink:

DAAAAAMMMM… i don’t even know what im meant to be looking at?

Are those your feet or your hands ben? kidding!

Definately wouldn’t go another day before amputating those… they dont offer any flex or drive…

Ant

Hey Chipper,

Check this out:

Lump, bump, thickening, or growth on the toe, foot, or ankle

Cheers,

Rio

You think you’ve got ugly feet - check this out!


W-E-L-L

thanks guys [I think ?]

I guess I asked for it really , posting photos of my feet on a surfboard design forum .

and no squiddy my nuts are fine but thanks for asking !

[do you want photos ?]

(aussies are NOT mad , really , everyone !) ben

I don’t normally do this, but you’ve helped me quite a bit, so here’s my offer mate. As a maintenance fitter in the steelworks, i have just the tool to set that bump right, it’s called a 14lb hammer, also known as a “persuader”. I’ll fly over there and gently “persuade” the offending bumps for half my normal fee, and i’ll even throw in a free set of steak knives at no extra charge if you pay by credit card within the next 48 hours.

P.S i also do facial re adjustments.

CALL NOW!!!

Beerfan.

Squid… That’s just plain nasty. Perhaps they body surf and were trying to grow some fins?

Chip,

My (bigger) little brother has lumps like that from playing rugby all year in worn out cleats. He reports about the same symptoms you’re talking about. If it’s just on your back foot I’m guessing it’s just a response to chronic friction. I tried to talk my brother into cutting them off with a utility knife, but he didn’t go for it so I can’t tell you how that would work. Actually, I wouldn’t recommend it.

Pat

that’s disgusting

no one should allow that

your feet are your foundation

that is pure stupidity

on a remote indian Island

the prectice of ritual amputation

is most often the solution for offensive toe action

the burning sensation is viewed as evidence of evil spirits

the holy men are not allowed to walk therby relieving them of the obligation

to maintain toes.When thesee foot anomalies

are witnessed by the villarge elder women,they hand out towels at the community spring

the subsequent council will identify and retrieve the toe sufferers

and present them to the holy graveneter

where they are ritually forced to drink coconut fizz until under

and then removed to the rock platform

where the offensive toes are dealt with

some say

life begins

with toe reduction

streamlined look to the foot

and wow a new

set of shoes

…ambrose…

Yes you are right about using the term “chronic friction”. I know exactly what it is and I know how you can get rid of it. The burning is from the loss and blockage of circulation due to the build up of callous and the “chronic friction”. It will get worse if you do not ACTIVELY now try to correct part of the problem … not from a “symptom” perspective but from the innate reason why it is happening.

Posture … your positioning your weight obviously on the inside of your right foot as it supports you. Right side aggressive is also the foot (left brain analytical and aggressive corresponds with the right side aggressive of the body … this is true even in left handed people. The left and right sides of the brain universally have different areas that they accentuate and the nerves from one side behind the neck (extra-pyramidal (wrong spelling) tracts) cross over to the opposite side of the body. My point being is that you ALWAYS push off of your right foot, probably also when you are not surfing. To propel. Your left foot will do the foundation balancing but your right will do the forward propelling and usually it will be towards the left side of the body. In your case that is true because you “chronic friction” is on the inside of the toe.

You have to start evening out the muscles and the development of your foot’s arches. The muscles of the toes can be invigorated and developed and given more circulation by your doing releves (toe raises onto the very ends of your toes with just your toes ONLY on the outer ledge of a stair). You have to start doing them NOW. You will benefit from this immensely in other ways but you have to do them every day and never stop. There is a yoga posture that requires just standing on all 10 toes with the arches completely flexed and supporting the toes and the knees bent perpendicular to the ground, but so that the thighs are parallel with the ground. And your arms are stretched out in front of you. I will take a pic of me doing it and show you later but it demonstrates the development and training that the toes are supposed to under go in order that they be evenly balanced and evenly be able to handle weight displacement no matter how the person holds their posture. Your posture in your feet will improve and the circulation will improve with your doing the toe raises but there is something else too that would help … but I am hesitant to say it here. I have worked on feet for 40 years … I know what I am talking about. I can stand on all 10 of my toes and have completely high arches and can balance very strictly on them. I got my feet back about 2 years ago with having stopped my yoga feet work. I had kept up my back bending work but had stopped my leg and feet and balancing work after having practiced yoga and dance, etc. for 30 years. It now has all come back and I am quite happy that the health of my legs and body is reflected in my feet coming back. Don’t EVER underestimate the problems or pain of your feet. The Chinese will tell you that they are the mirror of the body’s health and they are quite right about that. And Elsa Kelso said to “look below for the cause” or something to that effect (she of Earth shoe fame I think) and she was correct. What I was going to say is if you can pull your toe out. To PoP it. By Pop it I mean the oxygen emitting sound. It is not a grinding sound. It is a popping sound. It is the gas coming out of the joint and it makes a Pop! If you yourself can pop each of your toes out it is very beneficial. Usually with the big toes it is necessary to have someone else pop it. And they have to be good. If they use rubber gloves then there is no tugging on the joint and their is a direct and strong grip of the joint and the pulling out with put back into the toe its natural length and then with your doing toe raises you will develop the muscles better and the natural circulation and length of the toes will help also to offset the “chronic” rubbing and weight displacement onto the inside.

Please try what I said about the toe raises. If you do it every day you will effect your feet for your life. I do it every day on top of a microwaved heated bean bag. It is very resilent and it is stuck in the microwave for 4 minutes and I then take it out and put it on top of a wooden board and I hold on to the bar in my doorway and I do relevas all the way onto the ends of my toes and then take the heel over the edge of the wood so that it is like I am on a stair but also on the heated bean bag. It is a special bean bag that does not explode in the microwave. It was sold by Hammecher Schlemmer as a therapy heating pouch that supposed to go around the neck. I bought two and use them for my toe raises. You can use alot of things … even putting socks in the microwave and putting those on and doing the toe raises. It will help to bring more circulation to the feet and start to help the tissue to disperse the inflammation. This is what you do before surfing and then later after surfing you would ICE the area to take any swelling down. Heat before exercise to warm up the area and cold afterwards to ice down the swelling or inflammation. Take extra vitamin C and knock out sugar in your diet and fats and the inflammation will disperse faster. Add in vegetables almost raw and you will notice a huge improvement. After drinking the inflamed area will ALWAYS hurt more. The inflammation is added to by the alcohol. It dehydrates the tissue and then deposit the toxic chemical breakdown and helps to go in and inflame more of the tissue. Vitamin C in thousands of milligrams can offset this and so can vitamins B which are also water soluble and after drinking leave the body and contribute to soreness. Actually “soreness” of the nervous system if one can say it like that. B vitamins are the nervous system. C is the tissue and the healing and the immune system.

Yah… back in the day when I used to spend more time on my windsurfer than on land I had bumps on feet from the footstraps and thick callous lines on my hands from the wishbone… very painful there was only one solution, very non-brucelike as it may sound, pedicure and manicure… they can shave off the excess material with something that works like a miniature surform and yeah, they even have a mini sander/dremel like tool for the really hard stuff!!

Pictures cuz you like’m!!

Hey Chip - I have a similar deal, only it’s on the side of the ball of my foot, rather than on the side of the big toe - and it’s also only on my back foot.

It’s clearly surfing related and is caused (I believe) by rolling the foot over on its side and putting pressure on the board using that part of the foot when doing hard turns and/or crouching (e.g., to get barrelled).

The only solution I’ve found is to not surf,not turn hard, or not try to get barrelled. Then, my foot doesn’t hurt.

I find this solution unacceptable, so instead, I drink beer.

Cheers, mate!

Ben, easy and unexpensive: learn to switch foot.

I get thickening where both Ben & Keith do - back foot, outside edge of toe & ball of the foot. I agree its from surfing, mainly because I hate booties, but for the 3-4 months of the year that I do have to wear them, my foot softens back closer to normal.

If you look at the leftmost implement in this photo from SurferDave:

Its a kind of rough stone in a wooden handle. My wife gave me one when I was complaining about these things (see, Chip, there are a few good things about being married :slight_smile: ) and I scrub the calluses while in the shower. It actually started making a difference within a couple days.

Of course, go a few surfs & forget to scrub, and it all toughens up again…so now I just scrub at my foot & toe any time I’ve been surfing. It really works, and its much more manly than getting a pedicure :slight_smile:

(This is a conversation I never really thought I’d have publicly, but what the heck)

thanks for that Ben !

…and when the wife or you misbehave , well…

that “implement” on the left comes into its own again , as a butt paddle !

wooohoooo

" oh the pain … the pain … " [to quote Dr. Smith ]

Quote:

thanks for that Ben !

…and when the wife or you misbehave , well…

that “implement” on the left comes into its own again , as a butt paddle !

wooohoooo

" oh the pain … the pain … " [to quote Dr. Smith ]

Fortunately for both of us, the implement on the left is about 4" long.

Which means, and again fortunately for both of us, it would paddle her petite derriere nicely, and surely miss 99% of mine :slight_smile:

I guess I get the implement. I hereby claim it as my own. (don’t tell the missus)

photos please ! [but only when YOU are using it , thanks !]

maybe she could use it on you as a 'willy whacker" ['down boy down" , or “up boy up” , depending how tired you may be at the time …]