Fun Shape to Egg

So, this is my first post. Please go easy on me. I did thorough searches everywhere for my questions. If you don’t want to help please just leave it at that……

Thanks…

So, I have an older 8’ Fun board that is in rough shape. It’s got dings, dents, cracks and whatnot……

But the worst of it is the delam and the fins.

The fins were glassed on. It’s got a three-fin thruster type setup. One of the fins has come off due to the delam. The board has some browning but not too bad.

I really want to shape my own board from scratch but rather than buy a blank and jack it all up, I want to refurbish the fun board.

So here are my questions……

After I get all the glass of, sand the board a bit, perhaps spackle a bit etc….

Is it possible to alter the complete design of the board?

I want to cut it back. I’m thinking a little under 7’-Egg shape.

I’m really digging Hobbies retro egg.

Ok, I don’t have any experience shaping and I can’t find a board to “trace”.

Since this is my first board can I just do a free hand outline for the shape of the board?

I understand it needs to be symmetrical and I need to be methodical in my design but, is this a bad idea? If so…….Why not just say the hell with it and give it a try?

I’m really only planning on changing the shape of the nose and the overall length of the board. I don’t plan on changing much else as far as; width, rocker, rails etc….

However, I would like to change the fin setup. I really want to go single fin.

Can I cut in a fin box or will this destroy the strength of the stringer?

Am I better off jus glassing a single fin on?

Thanks for any help in advance……

If I decide to go through with this, I’ll post the process.

Thanks,

Dan

P.S. Can anyone tell me where I can find a good explanation of rails? I want to understand 50/50 better and how they are shaped? Thanks again…

Being a newbie at shaping myself I can only offer you some basic advice and encouragement. If your board is already a bust I say what the hell, go for it. As far as altering the shape you can try to do just swag a template but I wouldn’t recommend it. Look for the BoardCad thread and get it up and running on your computer. You can generate your own template there. Alternately you can go to the GreenLight surfboards website and look under the shaping tips section. They have downloadable templates there in pdf format. I used their 5’11 fish template for my first board. NOTE: Double check the measurements when you layout the templates, my 5’11" fish ended up actually being a 5’9" fish, which I did not pick up on until I had already cut it out. I would caution about removing too much foam, the closer to the center of board you go the weaker the foam gets. I would also go with a fin box because you may not end up glassing the fin where you really want it.

Great Bambino,

there are no rules!

strip it and shape it!

whatever you feel like!

seriously, the only thing limiting you is the amount of foam that you have and if the rocker will work.

if there’s one thing that i’ve learned in my exhaustive study of the archives, it’s that most anything “works”.

stripping an old board is how i did my #1 shape. i recommend that you make a template. templates can be

made from lots of things. a lot of people use cardboard or 1/8" masonite sheet.

i recommend freehanding your template around set nose, tail, and wide point measurements. measure out

your length first, then put a dot 12" from each end then decide if you want the wide point in the middle or

a little forward or a little back. make a dot there. then go through the resources of this website and find a board

that you kinda like (don’t worry, you’re going to end up with a totally different shape anyways) or ask around for

some dims for the length and type of board you want. divide those numbers in half and

plot them out on your template. then free hand the curve. cut it out. smooth it out with sandpaper. then you can

line your template up along the stringer and flip it over for the other side and be pretty symetrical.

have fun!

GO FOR IT!!!

Minimize spackle…use the “bones” or cut off waste foam to create filler plugs.

Do not freehand if you want it to look good…Template, template, template! Do not skimp on your template or the outline will come out lumpy and asymetrical.

Before you strip the glass, buy a 1/8 masonite sheet at the hardware/lumber yard. It comes in 4’x8’ sheets. Get them to cut you four 1’ wide strips 8’ long out of the original sheet. You need to have them cut the sheet to make sure the sides are straight. You can do this yourself if you have the tools. Now you have 4 template blanks!

Put your board deck down on your stands/sawhorses. Lay the template blank on the bottom. Line up one edge with the stinger. Trace the outline of the board onto the masonite blank. Use a Sharpie and try to keep it at the same angle against the surfboard rail. This will keep your transfered outline pretty much true. You can trace easier with the deck up but I find it takes a second person to keep the masonite tight on the board’s bottom while you trace.

Measure the traced outline in several locations to see that the outline is the same width as the board.

Now you are at a starting point to make your own new outline. Find a bendy piece of wood (dowel or strip) to use as a batten. This next process might take two people…

Put one end of the batten on your traced outline and start bending the other to create new curves. This is an infinite process so try a whole bunch of different curves until you think you’ve got it right (You can shorten the outline this way too). Then trace that curve with another Sharpie. I use different colors to help me compare curves. Make sure that your new curve blends into the old one smoothly.

Now stand the template blank up against the wall, step back and look at it. Does it look like 1/2 of a surfboard? Does everything blend smoothly? It it looks ok, on to the next step.

Now you have to cut the template out of the blank…I use a jigsaw. If you don’t have one, think about buying one as the alternative is a bitch. Saw outside the line you have chose for the outline. I stay about 1/8" away. When you are done sawing its time to sand.

Too many people skip the sanding but your template will end up with lumps and flats if you don’t. Use a surform or sanding block to smooth the outline curve to the inside of your Sharpie mark. Hold your new template up on edge on a flat surface. Roll it along the curve and you will find low spots, flat spots and lumps. Carefully sand these out so that the final outline curve flows. Don’t cheese out here. You’ll thank me later.

Take your final template and stand it up against the wall. Lookin good? If not, sand some more or…start over! You still have three more blank templates to use!

If you’re good to go…strip the glass on the surfboard, sand it smooth and lay the template ON THE BOTTOM of the board. Trace your outline on one side, flip the template over and trace the other side. Be sure you use a dark Sharpie. Stand the board up against the wall and check it out. Still lookin’ good?

Cut your outline out on the foam. Again, stay outside the line and hold your freaking saw straight up and down. Any variation from vertical will be a warble in the board’s final outline.

Now you can use those sanding skills and eye for smooth curves you learned making the template to smooth out the boards new outline. Use sanding blocks, surform or, if you’ve the guts, a power planer with 0 depth setting to smooth it out.

Whooohooo…you’re there and I’m tired of typing. I recommend doing a complete template even if you are just going to narrow up the nose. That way you have a smooth transition from your new curve to the old one. Plus you will learn a whole lot about what goes into outline design.

The next time, you will be able to create a whole new shape by using width measurements and your batten (or french curves).

Thanks everyone…

I think I’m going for it. I couldn’t find a working link for SurfCad?

I’ll keep you all updated on my progress. I have a lot of work ahead of me!

Dan