I found a really unusual Dia Del Muerte playing card with a skeleton-mermaid I’d like to use as-is for a logo/artwork on my board. Can I just glass the playing card in as part of the laminating or hot coat process? It is printed on white heavy bond paper. I don’t intend for it to be translucent. I am more interested that the board stay water tight. Thanks.
You can hot coat over it on top of the laminate. It will create a little bit of a raised edge since the card is thicker than rice paper. This is easily sanded off. A second much more involved and possibly bad option would be to laminate it under the glass, but that may create a bonding issue as I don’t think resin will soak through the card.
Or you could scan the card and print the image onto rice paper.
Someone much more experienced at inlay-ing things than I could probably provide a better answer.
If you’re putting it on a yet-to-be-glassed board, wet the back of the card with resin and put it directly on the foam before glassing it. Be careful when placing the glass over it so you don’t get snags, then squeegee well.
By putting it under the glass you’ll be able to keep it invisible to the touch and it won’t look like an afterthought.
Good luck - this is an easy job.
The resin will most likely ruin the card.
Not sure on epoxy, but Poly will not play nice with the ink that the card is printed with. It will run all over the place and not look too pretty. Also the paper will absorb the resin and turn a nice shade of dark grey brown.
Yor best bet is to scan the artwork and print on on rice paper.
Drew
sounds like you might have some problems with bonding/bleeding…probably be much better off to scan the image and print it on logo paper…1 or 2 light coats of white spraypaint on the back of the logo paper will give you the exact same look, without the potential for those nasty side effects.
here is an idea for you. not proven but i think this would be your best bet besides making a logo.
take the card and coat it with suncure lam resin and flash it to the sun very quickly. Make sure to coat the front and back. glass your board as normal then come back before hotcoat…put the card down on your first lamination and glass over it with 4 oz glass.(more likely to avoid a delam) then hotcoat and sand as normal. hope that helps.
Austin S.
if its printed two sides
yo may be able to reduce thickness
by splitting the paper>apart
though the reproducton of card
with hand illustration on rice paper
is the superior alternative.
when you hand draw the beauty
you perhaps avoid infringement.
allowing yous ta call ‘logo’ out loud
…ambrose…
and not just flirt with the topic.
sorry to hijack this thread, something i hadn’t considered fo my soon to be board. Where do you get this paper from, and can you just stick it thru a inkjet printer?
Follow Soulstice’s advice if it is for just one board and it’s not white. If you are going to do more have someone screen them. I use Loteria cards on my boards - you can see the on my website (not pipming… striclty for your reference) www.surfboardsbyben.com .
I did resin over some loteria cards with tints on an old chair for my wife. They came out good… but then again it was a chair and I was trying to make it look old and crappy…
ben
- Also, Ambrose, I didn’t think about getting sued. That’s a good point but I don’t think my little amount will even register…
Thanks all for the tips. I may just skip it on this one. Ambrose… like haiku. Awesome. keep it up. I’ll post pics of the board when Im done.
hi mate…yip, good old tissue paper, the kind they stuff around ya wifes $300 shoes, is the perfect stuff for surfboard transfers/decals…
heres my old logos (ive since had proper screens done) and they looked sweet for years…
just neatly, and tightly tape the tissue paper ( which you can get from any stationary store, or shoe shop, or florist etc…) onto a piece of a4…and send it thru your inkjet. (if the tissue has a shiney side- the good qual stuff will, send it thru, with shiney side up…ie printed surface)
be careful printing in colour…most of the inks are fugitive, ie not super resistant to sunlight…and remember your computer is assuming you are printing onto an opaque white background, not a clear/seethru tissue…
the white (within the word HEIST,on the blue board) can be done by just flipping the decal over and painting with gouache (or acrylics)…you dont even need to be that neat, as the thick black outline hides the edges…ya know…
i would actually suggest back-painting (with white) any object thats not black to begin with…ie red, otherwise when resin soaks thru it during laminating…it all turns out kinda pink and fuity…haha
bro…this technique has saved me hundreds of man-hours in the past…back when i was a sprayer in a factory, i constantly got requests for recreating logos, LP cover artwork, corporate images… all sorts of fiddly, time consuming shit… so instead of the airbrush, enter the computer…
good man!!!
nice one heist. thanks for the tips.
The rice/tissue paper as an easy proven way of getting art or a logo on to a board, and you can print as many as you like.
If you want the background white over a coloured lam, flip it and spray the back lightly with white acrylic paint.
If you still want to do the card thing - think that would look cool, I would split the card as ambrose suggested, then to have the other side, cut that in to quaters and do some tests to see if the ink bleeds.
I’d suggest sealing it with acryilc lacker or water based floor varnish, then do it as a floating lam.
glass the board as normal, then use some resin on the back and cover the card with a oval patch of glass about an 1-2" larger than the card. wet this out and leave a little extra resin on the join, once the resin has gone off feather the edges and hot coat as normal.
Just my 2 cent, for what its worth, but lets see some pictures of what ever you decide.
Clearly, rice paper is the preferred way to go…
The card seems to not be worth the effort, especially risking any kind of delam issue. It was an afterthought anyway, I was cleaning out the desk, saw the wierd mermaid skeleton card, and thought “hey, this might be neat”. Splitting a piece of heavy bond paper in half with an exacto blade is the sort of thing I will leave to people serving multiple life sentences, along with writing the lords prayer on a grain of rice…
Anyway, I plan to post pics of the board and recount the entire saga when it’s done. thanks again, -Stiff
Ha, that made me laught out loud.
should be eaiser than than, ever seen an old deck of playing cards, the corners get bent and they split, once that happens the faces peel off no problem.
sounds kinda spooky anyway finding an old card with a skeletal mermaid on it in a desk draw, its not one of those tarot cards is it. Could cause all sorts of bad due due vibes to your board. Ever since I uses a photo of a tiki statue as a lam we’ve had a killer flat spell and I still havent ridden that board. Cant help feeling there are greater powers at work, or it could just be that the wave are always shity in the summer.
You didn’t find any other weird stuff in that draw did you like a monkeys hand or anything did you.
serously though, the decal is probably the way to go but eversince seeing Austin’s post with the 8 ball and the flighter pilot’s coin, and Sir W’s rocker bottom board with the au notes and bud lables its got me thinking.
what is it, a year later? didnt look at the dates.
finished the board, had a blast makin it, riding it, dinging it, fixing, AND putting three of those loteria cards on, about a month after I first rode the board.
in retro-spect, i would take much longer to make the thing look pretty and proffesional, BUT, I wanted a fish to ride and now ive got one. Ive ridden it on little days and very big days. smashed the nose completely open like a blunderbuss in shallow shorepound. not a good choice for me for the big days. Like riding a postage stamp down a landslide is what it feels like… eek!
6’4" taken from the infamous Lis Fish plan, stretched out through the middle. made from a clark 10’ blank i was given by a timber faller who had it in his garage, along with a pair of shaping stands he wanted to get rid of. fins made of 1/4" birch faced ply from the garage floor. all glass and resin from a working chandlery, where bearded fisherman re-rig before heading up to AK or fishing the NW. best ridden with no leash on a waist high glassy day that peels and peels and peels
finished board pic:
Nice looking board, well bone.
Now how about those cards then, any chance of some pics and a run down on how you put 'em on?
Ill take a pic today… I just mixed up some resin and added a little wax, wet the sanded surface and laid the cards on, then put a couple light coats of resin over them. I tried it on a piece of plywood to see if the cards would bleed or swell first.