Grain Cedar+Red Oak glue-up questions...

Okay so I just got some solid grain cedar, theyre the only size that are wide that home depot carries, looked for some nice grain and less knots…

 

I intend to make a starter longboard (a skateboard…not surfboard) for the first go at glueing anything because its smaller scale learning before I make a surfboard and Im planning on glassing it with 4oz glass and poly resin (should I use epoxy instead?)…

 

now I have them in the typical board format you can get from HD, Is it okay if I glue them together horizontally with the oak veneer on the seams for added strength??..

 

Is there a glue-up guide somewhere on here that gives the basic tips like in what orientation the wood is stronger etc… Im making just a straight longboard (57 inch) to mimic the ply-longboard I have… I think its called an “Envy”…its a beast, no rocker, square tail and great for noserides …

I'm not sure I understand the question, and I was a bit confused by the wording.  You are building a skateboard with cedar that will be covered with an oak veneer?

I will vote for glassing with epoxy, sometimes there are issues with poly reacting with the oils in wood, and not hardening properly, but its less of a problem with epoxy.

     Howzit IanT,Huck pretty much said it all especially the part about poly and the wood oils. The thing I would add is I think you should use biscuts joints and epoxy to glue up the wood since there will be a lot of stress on the board when you are riding it.Just my 02 on it. Aloha Kokua

IanT, Vertical grain or quarter sawn will be your strongest lamination. When looking at the end grain, the grain lines will be perpendicular to the width of the board and parallel to the length. With nice tight gain cedar and oak you could skip the glass job.

 

you guys rock!!!

 

@ huck, yeah sorry my wording was a little weird, basically i have 2 10x6 (or 5.5?) pieces of grain cedar and my idea was that along the seams to strengthen the glue-joints chisel out a little indent the same thickness as the oak veneer and just inlay it with glue to help give added support,

 

I never even heard of biscuit joints before this so im glad I posted ! going to do some more research,

 

 

and thanks fishn, Being a supreme noob with woodworking I didnt know what people meant by grain lines etc… that visual=A++!!!

No added benefit for the veneer. The glass will be doing essentially the same thing only stronger. If biscuits are out of the question look into doweling. Although, if you have a straight edge on both pieces that mate perfectly, a glue joint with a glass job should be sufficient.

For a wood V-lam, you might want to consider Titebond III. You could cut the wood into narrower strips and mix up the two for a nice pattern.  Use enough clamps and the glue lines should be plenty strong.

A layer of glass on top wouldn’t hurt to control potential splitting.  I would use epoxy to laminate the cloth.

Lots of info about skateboard v-lams etc. at silverfishlongboarding.com under the building forum.  Do advanced searches for thread titles:

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/longboard-board-building/

A high-end example of a custom wood v-lam (one layer glass).

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/longboard-board-building/210695-v-lam-surf-style-board-soul-advice.html

 

 

Another:

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/longboard-board-building/219462-v-lam-custom-w.html

 

thos are such beautiful boards!!! Thanks for the tips, links and pics!!!

 

Currently trying to source some good quality epoxy!