Greenough Wildnerness longboard FS in the bay area

$200 makes me think this guy doesn’t know what he has…


looks like the real deal…that bottom to rail profile is trippppy…if I was done there, would jump on it.


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Too bad they put the lam on, upside down :wink:

I guess that makes it more collectable though?

Look’s like the real deal! 

Interesting idea, perhaps a volume vs. sink the rail deal or maybe flex.

Smells a little Blinky…

can’t figure out the Wildnerness Greenough connection. Board is obviously fairly contemporary, 2 + 1,perhaps a collobration on one of Greenoughs visits back to SB just prior to Wilderness closing?  That board has got a story, would love to know it…

Do any of these contacts for Wilderness still work?


Surf-n-wear’s Beach House (listed as dealer) 805-963-1281

website below has a new 9’3" Wilderness longboard shaped by Bob Duncan.

Much different template but the copy talks about “stepped rails”

Bob Duncan.  He took over a quite few years back.  Lost his shop in SB maybe 4 or 5 years ago and like others in SB;  shapes in one place, has them glassed in a factory and runs them thru the Beach House in SB.  The city has made in difficult for most.    Lowel 

the one I had  [1969] , had the george greenough bottom turn [as in the movies ’ children of the sun’ , and ,  later ,   ‘crystal voyager’ ] , for a logo … I wonder if I still have a photo of that , somewhere here …


  this one I had was  6’11 x 21 , with really knifey upturned nose rails , and an s deck [yuk] . It came from Bob Conneelly’s  Bondi Surf Shop , and had the ‘surf permit’  sticker [? 1971?] on it , still ?!   [back in the late '60s / early 1970s here , the clubbies brought in a rule that surfboards had to be registered [paid for] yearly , as they were considered ‘a danger to swimmers’ [bear in mind … this was before legropes , and boards were sometimes chunky , long , and heavy , before / during  the ‘transition period’ [as can be seen in the surf movies of the time , "  sea of joy" , and “evolution” ] …

Chine rails on the board pictured.


 My 1969 one had hideous belly on the bottom , and 50/50ish rails in the tail.


  Oh , and an ELEVEN INCH FIN , to hold the sucker in !  [from memory the tail pod was around 8" ? ]


I’ll google it , to see if the photos are still on that thread , if you like ?

sure…and be interested if anyone ever tried that bottom.

Reminds me of a snowboard I tried in the late 80’d built by Hobie.  Had a bitchin image of Phil Edwards tip riding as a full length top deck graphic.  Rail to bottom transition was cut/cambered just like the Wilderness this thread started with. a Whatever the thinking behind the design, board couldn’t hold an edge or track worth a crap…lol 

scroll down the page a bit , till you come to the ugly brown hull thingy …THAT’S the one !


it nowadays  resides in a friends surfboard shop , just down the road from where I lived in west oz.

I’ve made a few of them.  They don’t track.  They are an extreme version of a tucked-under rail.  You are separating the planing surface from the rail with a sharp release.  You can have the advantages of a soft pinched rail for control and a quick release when planing.  You also reduce the wetted surface to some degree when you are up and going.  Greenough came up with the design to make his kneeboards work in less than perfect conditions.  On his kneeboards, I’m sure there was more to the design than hydrodynamics as the edge affected the flex.  They are skatey but you can put them up on a rail and hold a high line.  Pain in the ass to glass.  Not sure they are worth the effort.  Most of Bob Duncan’s later boards were more of a chine rail than an edged rail.

Bob Duncan is a quality shaper, and Greenough is a legend, and today after my slippa broke I went barefoot all day, just like George.  O 3 yellowtail over 35lbs today.