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China/Asia meta-analyses:  low red meat, high vegetable intake, prominence of fish – low incidence of heart disease?

Before the most recent years, the principal forms of transportation were bicycles and walking.  Exercise or diet?  Population genetics? Adaptive evolution to principal food sources?  Total daily caloric intake per capita?  Accurate determinations of cause of death in rural areas with minimal or no trained medical professionals?

Without controlled variables, comparisons and definitive conclusions are suspect.

This is a good video to watch.

http://www.ornishspectrum.com/video/dr-ornish-on-cnn-the-last-heart-attack/

I think the problem is there are so many variables involved. It makes it complicated to control the variables. Not to mention the cultural input of food in our lives.  It’s hard to get someone to stick to the plan. I’m sure nobody out there knows this, but people lie about what they have been eating, too…Mike

“I’m sure nobody out there knows this, but people lie about what they have been eating, too”

Ask a cop if anyone ever lies about how much they’ve been drinking.  AHAHAHA

Seriously, many diet plans suggest weighing and documenting each and every portion of everything you eat.  I’m quite capable of sitting down and plugging my piehole virtually non-stop for quite awhile.  I have no idea how many calories are ingested in one of those comfort food binges.

People lie?    Do they, really?    Well, at least OBAMA doesn’t lie, eh?

There’s diet in Hawaii that consists of a lot of vegetables. It designed for many of the Hawaiian people who are suffering from heart problems and diabetes. We have a very high motality rate from these 2 problems. Anyway, the diet was originally created on the island of Molokai and called the Molokai Diet. One of the Dr.s in the project took the data and while working at the Waianae Health Center introduced it to that area as his creation and called it the Shintani Diet. He has a book called eat more weight less. I have this book along with the original Dr. Ornish book about beating heart disease.

If you have the discipline to eat right and get regular exercise, you can beat heart disease. The problem is the discipline. I don’t have or least didn’t have it when it comes to food. The Shintani diet is about eating all you want, but making sure it’s food that doesn’t add calories. All the dieticians I’ve talked to say we should only eat a small portion of lean meat or fish. This would be about the size of a small fist. I would typically eat 2 or 3 times that if not more. Thses days I have to watch myself or the veins they used for the bypass will clog up. The arteries they used should be more resistant, but the veins weren’t meant to do what arteries do.

For us that have documented Coronary Artery disease, we really need to be careful of what we eat, and get regular exercise. I’m not sure what people with other types of heart problems need to do, but for me plaque build up is a huge problem. The Ornish video mentions small LDL cells versus large LDL cells, where the large cells don’t cause plaque build up. I need to research if there are ways to help keep LDL cells larger, or if it’s something that can’t be changed. 

right on Dwight. truth be told, most of us “don’t know shit” (myself included) and the ones that do are probably fooling themselves.

I’ll have to check out that film. I think I’ve seen it on netflix…

Offhand, I wonder if the growth was a result of getting meat that had hormones?

LOL.  Nobody cheats on diets.

The most common times/events for social and familial gathering, interaction and celebration are centered around food/eating.

I find it interesting that people often focus on their cholesterol intake while many foods with high saturated fat content have fairly low cholesterol content.  Low cholesterol? OK to eat …

RDA = Recommended Daily Allowance

2% low fat milk (8 oz) –  15% RDA saturated fat, cholesterol 7% RDA

one deli thin-slice swiss cheese –  15% RDA saturated fat,  cholesterol 6% RDA

one regular Hershey’s chocolate bar – 40% RDA saturated fat, cholesterol 3% RDA

one beef hot dog –  26% RDA saturated fat, cholesterol 8% RDA

1-oz tortilla chips (7) –  5% RDA saturated fat, cholesterol 0%

Totals for this meal of one hot dog, one deli thin-slice of swiss cheese, one 8-oz glass of 2% low-fat milk, one regular Hershey’s chocolate bar and 7 tortilla chips:

101% RDA for saturated fat

24% RDA for cholesterol

Is cholesterol intake the principal issue for this meal and its impact on heart health?

People believe what they want to believe.

Now do the same for RDA sodium content in standard servings of common foods.

Dieting does not help.  One must change the way he/she eats permanently.

     Howzit rooster, First off I really don’t know what a statin is, is it 1 of those little tubes they put in an artery to keep it open?   The other thing is I hadn’t heard of anybody being tested for Mercury content. I worked for a guy that invented to test on swordfish. I probably have a pretty good dose of it from all the sashmi I have eaten over the years and I think of our Island brothers who have probably eaten even more fish. Aloha,Kokua

I was told to watch the saturated fat intake more than the cholesterol. That the body only absorbs 15% of the cholesterol we eat, but 100% of the saturated fat. Saturated fats require aerobic exercise to burn off, so you need to get your heart beat up in the aerobic range for your age. You also need to be working out for 20 minutes before you even start buring that fat. I used to run on my treadmill with a heart monitor to make sure I was doing it right, but have since stopped. My heart monitor broke a while ago.

I’m convinced that a diet heavy in fresh vegetables (as organic as possible) mixed with some fresh fruit, small portions of fish, or very lean meat, will keep you healthy. I unfortunately eat a lot of fish, mostly raw yellowfin tuna, but also other sashimi cuts. I can eat fish all week. I eat lots of salmon, butterfish, cod, mahimahi, and other fish cooked. My doctor says I’m better off eating fish than meats, and not worry about the mercury poisoning. The chicken, turkey, and most of the meats in the supermarkets have so many chemicals in it that it’s probably not very healthy. Anything labeled organic comes at a premium in cost. Eating healthy is expensive. The prices I pay for good fresh ahi equals the finer cuts of beef if not more. We’re planning to grow our own vegetables and I eventually want to setup and an aquaponic system to raise fish too.

Basic rule of nutrition/science: calories in must equal calories out.  Otherwise weight is gained or lost, fat stored/synthesized or fat used for energy/broken down.

“Dieting does not help.  One must change the way he/she eats permanently.”

That right there seems brilliant in it’s simplicity.

This link is to a recent press release, 27 October 2013, 

The epiphany hit when professor Grant Schofield was working between the tiny Pacific Islands of Kiribati and Vanuatu on a public health mission.

On Vanuatu he found most of the population were healthy and happy, living the way they always had, in isolated villages with minimal input from the outside world. On low-lying Kiribati, however, where the people rely heavily on foreign aid, nearly all the adults were overweight or obese. The children were malnourished. Rampant diabetes meant the hospital was amputating up to 20 limbs a week.

“I left Kiribati thinking, ‘there’s no reason for optimism here’,” said Schofield. “In public health, you’re always positive, but I remember flying out on that plane and thinking, forget sea-level rise, these people have a much bigger problem.”

The difference? The food. Specifically, the amount of carbohydrates. In Vanuatu, the people eat the same way they have for decades - on fresh produce they grow or catch themselves - mainly fish, vegetables and coconuts.

About 60 per cent of their calories come from fat, more than double the average New Zealand intake. There was very little carbohydrate, just a small amount of rice.

Meanwhile, on Kiribati, the islanders survive on a staple of cheap imports such as soft drinks, white rice, flour, sugar, tinned fish and instant noodles.

“That’s when the penny dropped,” Schofield said. “Two islands - one running on real food, the other on the cheapest energy available - processed carbohydrates. If you ever wanted evidence that processed carbohydrates damage humans, you should go to Kiribati and have a look for yourself.”

It was that moment that prompted Schofield, a professor at the Auckland University of Technology’s Human Potential Centre, to return to New Zealand and try a low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet for himself.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/9327862/Fighting-fat-with-fat

To end my comments on a positive note:

Nutrition Facts:  Beer (Regular, 12 oz)

0% RDA Fat – Saturated or othwerwise – none

0% RDA Cholesterol – none

1% RDA Sodium

4% RDA Carbohydrates – Sugar 0 g

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”

Beer is allowed on the Dr Esselstyn plan

Watch ‘Forks Over Knives’ doco. Problem solved. Throw away the meds. Eat what you are built for.

I eat only Snickers , and drink only Cocacola , is that healthy ?

…I have lots of questions and observations; here some:

-all over the world, the new generations grow taller and bigger, included the gals; but MOST eat not so good. Include the guys that do not do any sports or anything healthy with their bodies too.

How s that? No scientific explanation about it?

-As many of you know, I have the rotor cuff tendon broke so I cannot train and I lost all the muscles in both arms and shoulders…and I eat a lot, more calories than what I need right now. I eat BETTER quality food and balanced than most of these new generations, but I keep losing muscle. I have the problem of lose not gain Kilos

-I still think the pyramid and this new plate are not so right.

-In my opinion besides training, etc, GENETICS and NO STRESS ARE ALL; so you are ok or you are fucked, it s just that. My neighbor smoke 4 packs!! everyday for over 30 years, eats totally bad, wrong and not so much, never realized any sport; always seated, etc but zero stress and incredible genetics.

-I cannot stand that hate for the diary products…It s ridiculous only if you eat like a pig or has issues about it.

-In Japan the people eat very small portions of everything. (when I was there) I could not eat so few I felt hungry; however, I cycled a lot everyday and lost 1kg and that s a lot for me.

-Why most Hawaiians are so fat? Here s the plate:

      Howzit stoneburner, Now which beer are you getting your info from,I was a Bud Light drinker and it had 6 grams Carbohydrates and my doctors always said a couple or 3 a night was OK. This Doctor here says no beer and I found out it was because he had me on Metformin. Beer and Metformin together are hard on the liver so I quit taking the Metformin. I hated using it anyways because it was hard already on the liver without the Beer. I am down to 2 beers a night if I have any and since I am back on a feeding tube I just pour it in the tube and it goes down fast. As for diets, they will only work sometimes and then most people don’t sitck to one 100%. I knew 1 person that using one of those flush diets but I also saw her in line at the Waipouli McDonald’s drive thru probably getting a Big Mac and fries. Aloha Kokua

        Howzit reverb,Is there no type of exercises you can do that won’t hurt the shoulder and slow down the atrophy to them. I know I had a bad should for a few years and I stopped paddling for about 3-4 months but kept swimming and when I got into the surf again the shoulder didn’t go ballistic after 1/2 hr of paddling like before. One thing is when you start to paddle again the muscles will return pretty fast depending on how old you are. I am 65 and my muscles seem to tone back up fairly fast but I have always had a fast metabulism. Are you going to have that tendon fixed or is it something you will just have to live with? Another thing I did was not paddle hard with the hurt shoulder and let the good one do more work. You need to have max paddle power when out for the really big waves. Look at Bethany with only 1 arm, she doesn’t let it get her down. Aloha,Kokua