Help a Newb Save a Board

Muddy,

Malibu is a great boat brand, one of the best inboards. I’ve surfed behind two LSVs (23 foot boat). One was at a dealer sponsored surf event and the other at the 2007 Lake Norris Lake Ice breaker. Those two experiences varied greatly.

The dealer operated in a shallow part of the lake and didn’t know how to set up the boat. The surf wake was so bad I could hardly stay in the pocket. For my old boat I needed at least twelve feet of depth, more than twenty doesn’t make much difference. HE was in about 6 feet or water – not enough.

The LSV at the Ice Breaker was dialed in and Lake Norris is plenty deep. Surfing behind that LSV was a breeze. The boat was weighted with about 3,000 pounds. The wake was fairly tall, had lots of push but the pocket was a little short for my liking.

I’ve also used Malibu VLX (21.5 feet) boats in two tournaments. We used a VLX at the 2006 Scioto Wakefest in Columbus, Ohio. We had very good surf wakes in about every set up we tried. One thing we didn’t use was the Malibu Wedge. I don’t think that it helps the wake, it hurts it. At the 2007 Scioto Wakefest a promo driver brought a VLX and wouldn’t let us “help” him set up the boat. He used the wedge and I heard nothing but complaints.

One problem with Malibu boats and wakesurfing is CO exposure. Most Malibu’s are bought with the Wedge. The wedge prevents use of equipement like Fresh Air Exhaust to mitigate CO. I believe that Larry Mann at FAE is working on a Malibu system so maybe that’s a mute point now. Soon all new inboard boats will have catalytic converters that should meet the need. The LSV at Lake Norris had the 383 Hammer Head engine. The fumes were a bit much fore me.

Depending on what your interests are the Malibu LSV and VLX are great boats. If you’re in to wakeboarding then the VLX would be excellent. If you’re in to cruising and hanging out with a lot of people, you have light wake boarding interest, and maybe more surfing interest the LSV might be the ticket.

If you’re in to surfing and think that wakesurfing will be something you will do a lot then I’d take a close look at Centurion boats. Centurion is widely recognized as the wakesurf boat leader. The 23 and 24 foot Enzo models are simply the best. I just bought an Enzo and I’ve surfed behind an Avalanche. Centurion has a system called Side Swipe to mitigate CO.

We also used a Centurion Avalanche at the 2007 Wakefest and two Avalanches at the 2007 National Wakeboard League, Wakesurfing Nationals Championship. The Avalanches made excellent regular and goofy wakes. Not all boat can.

I don’t know where you are in Maryland. I used to live in St. Mary’s County in the 80s. If you’re in the pan handle and not too fart away from Tennessee we’d be happy to have you join us at the 2008 Lake Norris Ice Breaker this weekend April 25-27. Bring that board and surf with us.

Bigshow, Thanks for all the informative information. I have keen interest in doing a lot of wake surfing this summer, and your thread has been very helpful to me. I have been working in Mc Henry, Maryland for the last year on Deep Creek lake. I missed out on any activities on the lake last summer because I was busting my tail to get back to the OBX to surf. My current girlfriend and her brother are big time wake boarders and water skiers, and I am trying to talk them into trying wake surfing. Thanks for the invite to the ice breaker. My work schedule doesn’t afford me to the luxury of planning ahead, but if it works out I would love to join you. Thanks, Bob

Muddy,

I’m organizing the National Wakeboard League wakesurfing championships for Ohio, Indiana, and Nationals (In Columbus Ohio). We’ll have another r get together at Lake Norris in the fall. These comps are laid back and a lot of fun. If you’re interested I could shoot you more information.

I think Jessica Oswald rides at Deep Creek. Jessica is a world class wakesurfer. You should try to look her up.

Regards

Bigshow,

Thanks for all your posts! I just started shaping/glassing boards and am going to be making one for my friend as his wedding present. I checked out some wakesurfers and was not happy with the quality/price.

Any advice on size? I am looking at US Blanks 6’2"A Fish Blank to start out with. I want to keep it thick and trim it to a 5’6". Most of the wakesurfers had a good nose rocker and little to no tail.

Your expert advice is appreciated! Your pizzahut board is the coolest and most inspirational board I have ever seen!

Thanks!

Jason

I made a board from 7 foot something blank last winter. I cut a lot off the tail to try to remove the tail rocker. Even so the board ended up with too much tail rocker and was too slow for an enjoyable ride. I made a pair of EPS foam boards this spring; one for a charity auction and one before it as a prototype. Both boards have no rocker. I didn’t ride the charity board. The prototype was a really good ride. The prototype was a bit fragile. I added a birch/balsa deck patch and teak veneer on the charity board to add strength.

The charity board. Teal is for ovarian cancer.

I love the veneer. I will do that to a board someday as it looks amazing.

Couldn’t you plane the board down and get some of the rocker out of it?

Yes, you can remove the tail rocker, IMO recommended.

Here are a few pics from my wakesurfer. Just finished rough shaping. Will plane down to size, take out tail rocker and shape rails tomorrow. 5’2" X 20 1/4.

Bigshow,

Got any ideas on fin placement? I am using 2 FCS style fins.