Hobie Deadly Flying Glove specs?

Anyone have one or know what the rocker, nose and tail specs might be?

Saw one in the Board Forum of this month’s Surfer mag on p.175 and all the info they give is 6’6" x 21 3/4" x 2 7/8". I need something that will work well in bigger choppy East Coast waves. I’m selling one of my longboards (it’s at McKevlin’s in Folly Beach, SC if any of you are in the market), and using my store credit to custom order a board from Allison Surfboards in Wilmington, NC, but I need some more info because I’d like it to work as a single-fin as well as a thruster and the boards he had in stock were all thrusters. I know it’d be more fun to shape my own board, but if I don’t take the store credit I lose 25% of my money (it’s a consignment deal). Also, chances are my college roommates next year won’t take too kindly to foam dust.

Hi Rachel -

Sorry, I have no idea on current specs but here’s some trivia for you.

For most on Swaylocks, the original “Deadly Flying Glove” connection is probably before your time. The “Deadly Flying Glove” was a pre/early transitional style longboard featuring a pulled in/semi-gun tail. A Corky Carroll design from the late 60s based on the name of the horrible weapon used by the Blue Meanies to help destroy Pepperland in the Beatles animated movie “The Yellow Submarine.”

Trust me, you’d have to see the movie to understand. It is rather… imaginative.

(see partial review below)


Opening narration: “Once upon a time… or maybe twice, there was an unearthly paradise called Pepperland. 80,000 leagues beneath the sea, it lay, or lies… I’m not too sure.”

Well, that unearthly paradise comes under the attack of the Blue Meanies, masked, gold-toothed, blue-furred creatures who with their tall apple-bearing bonkers, missile firing clowns, Snapping Turks, anti-music missile, and the dreadful flying glove, lay waste to Pepperland, turning it from a colourful paradise to a black-and-white wasteland, and draining the life force of its citizenry. Young Fred goes for help in the title craft moments after the string-quartet loving Lord Mayor is bonked.


Ahhh yes…the college roomates and the foam dust…

I have not seen a DFG, but I did shape boards my sophmore year of college in a dorm room, to the…ahhh…amusement of my roomates. I have to say, I don’t recommend it. Between shaping, glassing, and sanding, I pretty much destroyed the living room. When I moved out, when the room inspections took place, I put surfboards up against the walls in places where there was damage, and they signed off that my room was OK! Little did they know…

I gave in this year and got my own place…I need the extra space anyway, and being poor is fun! haha

Scott

Hi John!

Wasn’t there another “Deadly Flying Glove” model made by Morey/Pope in the early '70s? I think I remember seeing an ad for that one in S-Mag… Or am I just getting too old and starting to get things all mixed up? Anyone remembers that?

when/ if go to college i hope my roomies surf. perhaps surfboards at cost would entice them to let me shape if not. two of the colleges i am looking at have a swaylocker in the vicinty, you know who you are, and i hope you realize that mean you can order in bulk for cheaper rates.

Scott, at least you had a living room to terrorize! Submarines have more roomy sleeping quarters compared to these dorms. I’ve got relatives who live nearby, but so far my aunt has only signed off to me leaving surfboards at her house, and I doubt there’ll be any room for me to shape if she let me.

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Hi John!

Wasn’t there another “Deadly Flying Glove” model made by Morey/Pope in the early '70s? I think I remember seeing an ad for that one in S-Mag… Or am I just getting too old and starting to get things all mixed up? Anyone remembers that?

According to “Stoked-N-Board”:

‘“Deadly Flying Glove”, Corky Carroll, 8’2", produced March 1969 through September 1969.’

I don’t find a corresponding model name for M-P. They had a number of models during that period with “Camel” as part of the name (Camel Dart, Camel Gun, Camel Minipepper), and I don’t doubt that at least one of those was head-to-head competition for the DFG. Surf mag ads were quite fanciful and occasionally ambiguous at the time, possibly Morey ran one comparing the DFG with his model, and the association stuck…

-Samiam

Maybe the M-P “Blue Machine” by Bob Cooper… (Blue Machine/Blue Meanies = subconscious Yellow Submarine connection?)

With a little push from the music scene and guys like Timothy Leary everything was turning psychedelic back then… it’s no wonder some of our memories are a bit fuzzy. Here are some surf stars of the era and their acid splash shortboards just before the long hair/hipster thing…

On the Surfer message board TFAD called it his favorite board of '06. I bookmarked the thread because I think my next board will be based on it. No dimensions, unfortunately but some more info:

surfermag thread

Hi Rachel,

As Sam and John have mentioned, these were transitional models, typically more like 7’4" or so long than 6’6"… how shall I put this, they were not great boards.

Round rails, mostly, a kinda odd rocker, they all had kind of a blob outline, long Greenough type fin to keep it from sideslipping out of a wave - and that was about it. As a thruster, the shape would be awful, as a singlefin with a lot of fin it’s marginal. We are basicly talking about a board where somebody took an old-school longboard rail and rocker and put it on a slightly newer outline shape and called it good enough. Hey, they didn’t know any better, y’know?

Similar boards would be the early G&S Magic, Weber Ski and the earlier Stratos, and yes, the Phillips Strawberry Shortcut, though they were a helluva sight more sophisticated than the DFG in terms of rails, rocker and bottom contours.

The later ‘just before the twin-fin’ era boards, similar to the old Weber Australia might be better for what you’re looking for, wider tailed and much more sophisticated rails and rocker and bottom shape. With an even newer rail and rocker, it might work with a thruster setup as well as working as a single.

Or the mid-'70s gunny shapes, typically around 7-and-change, mostly downrailed with mebbe a little concave to the bottom, though the Reno Abellira hyper-kick nose versions are something to steer clear of. Of all the '70s boards, I’d say those worked the best.

Of course, the question then arises: why try to make a 1970s shape work with a modern fin and rail setup when there’s lots of others done since then that work just fine.

Just a rant in general, but I really don’t get this retro thing - I was around for all that stuff, the whole range of boards that came out in the late '60s through early '80s, and the main reason for most of them was to come out with something new every year that the poor dumb surfers ‘had to have’ - it sold a lot of boards, but the fact is a lot of them were horrible.

hope that’s of some use

doc…

My frist good board was an Allison. Great shapes. Always had good airbrush too.

Anyone have one or know what the rocker, nose and tail specs might be?

Saw one in the Board Forum of this month’s Surfer mag on p.175 and all the info they give is 6’6" x 21 3/4" x 2 7/8". I need something that will work well in bigger choppy East Coast waves. I’m selling one of my longboards (it’s at McKevlin’s in Folly Beach, SC if any of you are in the market), and using my store credit to custom order a board from Allison Surfboards in Wilmington, NC, but I need some more info because I’d like it to work as a single-fin as well as a thruster and the boards he had in stock were all thrusters. I know it’d be more fun to shape my own board, but if I don’t take the store credit I lose 25% of my money (it’s a consignment deal). Also, chances are my college roommates next year won’t take too kindly to foam dust.

Hi Rachel -

Sorry, I have no idea on current specs but here’s some trivia for you.

For most on Swaylocks, the original “Deadly Flying Glove” connection is probably before your time. The “Deadly Flying Glove” was a pre/early transitional style longboard featuring a pulled in/semi-gun tail. A Corky Carroll design from the late 60s based on the name of the horrible weapon used by the Blue Meanies to help destroy Pepperland in the Beatles animated movie “The Yellow Submarine.”

Trust me, you’d have to see the movie to understand. It is rather… imaginative.

(see partial review below)


Opening narration: “Once upon a time… or maybe twice, there was an unearthly paradise called Pepperland. 80,000 leagues beneath the sea, it lay, or lies… I’m not too sure.”

Well, that unearthly paradise comes under the attack of the Blue Meanies, masked, gold-toothed, blue-furred creatures who with their tall apple-bearing bonkers, missile firing clowns, Snapping Turks, anti-music missile, and the dreadful flying glove, lay waste to Pepperland, turning it from a colourful paradise to a black-and-white wasteland, and draining the life force of its citizenry. Young Fred goes for help in the title craft moments after the string-quartet loving Lord Mayor is bonked.


Ahhh yes…the college roomates and the foam dust…

I have not seen a DFG, but I did shape boards my sophmore year of college in a dorm room, to the…ahhh…amusement of my roomates. I have to say, I don’t recommend it. Between shaping, glassing, and sanding, I pretty much destroyed the living room. When I moved out, when the room inspections took place, I put surfboards up against the walls in places where there was damage, and they signed off that my room was OK! Little did they know…

I gave in this year and got my own place…I need the extra space anyway, and being poor is fun! haha

Scott

Hi John!

Wasn’t there another “Deadly Flying Glove” model made by Morey/Pope in the early '70s? I think I remember seeing an ad for that one in S-Mag… Or am I just getting too old and starting to get things all mixed up? Anyone remembers that?

when/ if go to college i hope my roomies surf. perhaps surfboards at cost would entice them to let me shape if not. two of the colleges i am looking at have a swaylocker in the vicinty, you know who you are, and i hope you realize that mean you can order in bulk for cheaper rates.

Scott, at least you had a living room to terrorize! Submarines have more roomy sleeping quarters compared to these dorms. I’ve got relatives who live nearby, but so far my aunt has only signed off to me leaving surfboards at her house, and I doubt there’ll be any room for me to shape if she let me.

Quote:

Hi John!

Wasn’t there another “Deadly Flying Glove” model made by Morey/Pope in the early '70s? I think I remember seeing an ad for that one in S-Mag… Or am I just getting too old and starting to get things all mixed up? Anyone remembers that?

According to “Stoked-N-Board”:

‘“Deadly Flying Glove”, Corky Carroll, 8’2", produced March 1969 through September 1969.’

I don’t find a corresponding model name for M-P. They had a number of models during that period with “Camel” as part of the name (Camel Dart, Camel Gun, Camel Minipepper), and I don’t doubt that at least one of those was head-to-head competition for the DFG. Surf mag ads were quite fanciful and occasionally ambiguous at the time, possibly Morey ran one comparing the DFG with his model, and the association stuck…

-Samiam

Maybe the M-P “Blue Machine” by Bob Cooper… (Blue Machine/Blue Meanies = subconscious Yellow Submarine connection?)

With a little push from the music scene and guys like Timothy Leary everything was turning psychedelic back then… it’s no wonder some of our memories are a bit fuzzy. Here are some surf stars of the era and their acid splash shortboards just before the long hair/hipster thing…

On the Surfer message board TFAD called it his favorite board of '06. I bookmarked the thread because I think my next board will be based on it. No dimensions, unfortunately but some more info:

surfermag thread