Attached is our price list for anyone who is interested.
Whether you’re already doing epoxy or thinking about giving epoxy
a try…it’s definitely worth checking out. Shipping prices vary, depending on
blank size, number of blanks, and location.
Example shipping with packing and box:8 6’3" blanks to San Diego,CA. $80.50
Example shipping with packing and box:8 6’3" blanks to Wilmington,NC $61.00
Click on the attatchment below to get my price list
The guys @ Home Grown have some really sweet looking EPS Blanks I have seen them @ the Expo last month ! They make a Top quaility product for sure !
yeah thats great…i sell 8’ eps blanks …and they are are 8’x4’x2"…just kidding, i dont sell them the local hardware store does.
how about telling us a little more than how long they are?
most of us can shape a block of crap thats 8’x8’x8’ into something but telling me its 6’1" long isnt much use…
what else you got?
yeah thats great…i sell 8’ eps blanks …and they are are 8’x4’x2"…just kidding, i dont sell them the local hardware store does.
how about telling us a little more than how long they are?
most of us can shape a block of crap thats 8’x8’x8’ into something but telling me its 6’1" long isnt much use…
what else you got?
Have ,
If you look at the bottom of my post, the blue highlighted area is a
price list and some more information.[left click that using your mouse].
And if you would like more information than what’s there. Then you can go ahead and ask. But, I really don’t think you are very interested by your “CRAP” statement.
Paul
“If your not riding the wave of change, you may find yourself beneath it!”
paul, my use of the word “crap” is just a pc version of my usual word “shit” neither of which meant to be read as offensive, just a general term for “stuff”…
examples- in the near future there will be a “crap”(shit) load of people trying to sell the eps /epoxy “stuff”(shit),dont find yourself beneath the wave of change.
-my dog ate my homework, “shit”(crap)
-my dog eats “crap” (shit)
-my dog eats “stuff” (crap) (shit)
-oh “shit” i “crapped” on some “stuff”
-who the hell really says “crap” anyway?
have,
this is some block’s of the “stuff” we use 4’x4’x17’, 2# or 3# density.
This “stuff” when cut into a blank, then shaped into a surfboard, then glassed
with epoxy resin “stuff’”, turns out to be really strong and light surfboard.
You will “crap” when you check one out.
Greg L wasn’t lying when he said the “stuff” factories make so much “stuff” that a little bit of their market share of aforementioned “stuff” could provide for entire surfboard building crew, even the big dogs that consume large amounts of clark equivalent of THE “stuff” . So there was enough “stuff” to sustain us all. Whew lots of “stuff”. and in 1 lb, 2 lb, 3 lb, maybe even 4 lb.
Attached is our price list for anyone who is interested.
Whether you’re already doing epoxy or thinking about giving epoxy
a try…it’s definitely worth checking out. Shipping prices vary, depending on
blank size, number of blanks, and location.
Example shipping with packing and box: 4 6’3" blanks to San Diego, CA. $65.50
Example shipping with packing and box: 4 6’3" blanks to Wilmington, NC $46.00
How about a stipend for Mr. Swaylock for every hit on this thread for the free advertisement?
easternpacific,
New products, events, announcements, sales, promotions and anything else related to the business of surfcraft.
I do appreciate Swaylock’s very much. And , would be interested in sponsering this site somehow. I did feel thet I had a new product to announce,and to promote.
Thanks for looking out for Swaylocks though,
Paul
I do appreciate Swaylock’s very much. And , would be interested in sponsering this site somehow.
I’d be interested, as a potential customer, on how you came up w/ your rockers and deck indexes? I’d also like to inquire about your wood selection and milling facility. Myself being in So. Cal. I know how challenging it is to get quality wood in small quantities and consistency. So we understand your back ground in these areas, maybe you could elaborate on this. Especially on the rockers and lumber facility.
easternpacific, We have a great connection with a large lumber supply company here on the East coast. The quality of their lumber is excellent. They supply us with Bass, (as you know, it’s a slower growing tree and sometimes not as readily available as one would like) Poppler, Spruce, and Cedar. We are also experimenting with Balsa and Bamboo stringers. In addition, the lumber company has several other types of wood which are readily available. As far as rockers and elaborating on ours… We are currently putting together a couple catalogs. I can tell you that our rockers are a compilation of many years of working with foam and surfing. Like a lot of others in this business, we had only used Clark foam to shape with so, to say Clark’s rockers don’t have an influence on our rockers would be a false statement. They do. They have. And they probably always will, just like the rockers will always have influence on any other blank makers. And to his compliment, Clark’s achievements have set the industry’s standards. Our blanks are not exact copies of Clark blanks; although they are similar. You can only skin a cat so many ways. Besides, once a board is shaped it’s usually a lot different in length, width, and rocker than from when it started out as a blank. We highly recommend using your own rockers if you have them but if not, we think ours are similar to what you are used to. Regards, Paul
Maybe worth mentioning that international standard shortboard blank profiles generally fall into a 5"-6" nose rocker, 2"-2 1/2" tail rocker and 2 1/2"-3" thickness range? That just seems to be where things landed.
I realize that there are many custom rocker tweaks but most variations on this theme are more for saving a few strokes in production facilities than anything else. Anybody with a rocker measuring system should be able to alter stock designs easily to fit their own personal requirements.
Cut (as opposed to molded) EPS blanks are generally rectangular in cross section so deck crown, rail tapers, etc. are still up to the shaper - unlike the Clark close tolerance blanks which came much closer to a finished shape.
FWIW, I’ve received many Clark stringer orders with banana bows in them. I’ve been told they ran the blanks lengthwise through a bandsaw to cut them for stringer installs - in a factory with the production rate of Clark’s, I would imagine that some of those defects were unavoidable. With a long “guillotine” hotwire set up, an EPS blank can be cut perfectly - straight down through the deck.
I’m really stoked for guys like Home Grown Foam, SFoam, Segway, etc… some great opportunity here.
John,
The bow could be caused by quite a few things including the saw. Most likely either the blank was trying to relax back to it’s natural rocker or in the gluing process the hydraulic presses were tweaked a little off. Every piece of wood is unique and will do different things under tension.
With EPS hotwired you could cut the rocker right into the blank. Not sure how bending the blank to put rocker into effects overall strength and performance of a finished board.
sluggo
Hi Sluggo -
I assumed it was the cutting that wavered off center as I’ve had three-stringer blanks with the offsets straight and parallel but the center stringer was bowed.
As I understand it, rocker “tweaks” can be accomplished in a number of ways… bending the blank to fit a stringer, altering the profile dimensions as when hotwire cutting, or simply shaping it in by selectively removing foam to desired rocker curve. I was referring to the last method.
I don’t know how stressing the blank to fit a modified stringer will affect performance or durability either. Clark Foam did it all the time and had quite a catalog of stringer profiles that in some cases were far from the “natural” rocker of a blank. You could order for instance a Brewer “gun” rocker for the 12’8" tandem blank.
For the “guillotine” hot wire cutter, imagine a wire stretched tight from nose to tail and fixed to vertical sliding blocks in frames at each end. One guy at each end… wire hot? Blank flat and centered? Go! Just slide the blocks down and the wire cuts through the blank. Perfectly straight vertical cut every time. Hopefully the stringer doesn’t decide to warp or twist after being glued in place or that the blank didn’t get tweaked in the glue up process.
It has been questioned (in another thread) whether users of the new (imports/Walker) urethane blanks are going to have issues with mushy decks, broken boards and or delams. Who knows? If so, it won’t be a whole lot different than what we’ve already had with Clark Foam.
I’m not trying to insult your intelligence here… I suspect you know all this and a whole lot more. I’m just trying to clarify what was already said. I wasn’t taking “pot shots” at Clark, just pointing out that Clark blanks aren’t (weren’t?) perfect and that the new guys have a pretty good shot at a golden opportunity.
Good point on the center cuts… I saw some blanks here in California this week that were cut poorly and showed yellow glue heavy in an irregular line all the way down the board . Atheistically, it looked bad.
God, the surf was good today.
John,
Didn’t take it as a pot shot.
The center cuts were done on a saw using 4 posts as index points, posts resting on rails. Two towards the nose and two towards the tail. You could get some wacked cuts probably if the saw blade was dull. If blank was not symetrical the cut would center based on unsymetrical rails. 99 Yater is a good example of this.
Offsets were cut by placing center of cut blank against a large piece of wood that was adjusted to width. If center cut was not straight, offsets would probably be tweaked also since the blank center cut would straighten against the wood.
Usually problems are not one thing but a combination of things. Who knows.
Sluggo
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I think one of the x-factors is the wood and how it is used. I’m not sure I’d want to use poplar on this application, as it has a great deal of movement. Regardless, I was interested in seeing what kind of operation SURFTHEWORLD is. The capital letters and name had me curious as to if you were the second coming or not. So much action is going into the generic title of “foam” now that it’s going to take a while for reputations to establish themselves.
I for one disagree w/ solo0surfer on the statement that nobody works w/ care and respect of other’s property, legal or not. There are many, many companies the take respectful, philosophic principles and turn profits. These types of companies tend to help people make better choices. Tying some of my inquires together helps me realize where I will spend my money in this regard.
Good luck, and thanks.
easternpacific,
Thanks for taking the time responding back to my reply. We added poplar to our list of wood available because we have had several requests for it. Our operation that you are referring to is Home Grown Foam,USA inc. Surfstheword (not world) is my Swaylock’s user id. The capital letters have been adjusted for your veiwing pleasure. I guess i just got excited signing up to be a member of Swaylock’s. Sorry if anyone took it to offense. As far as working with care and respecting others. Thats how I due business and live my life. I know what it takes to make a business successful. Thanks for all the inquiries ep, an let me know if your ever in need of a blank. (w/ any kind of stringer material you request)
Paul Peck
Home Grown Foam,USA inc.
ps. your post kind of reads like there is something about my business that you don’t respect. If so, I would like to know what it is. So I can clarify it or fix it.
The dreaded capitals in my user name are not open for editing. I will keep working on that.until then just try and ignore that they are capitals. It’s just your imagination. It really looks like this “surfstheword”
easternpacific,
ps. your post kind of reads like there is something about my business that you don’t respect. If so, I would like to know what it is. So I can clarify it or fix it.
Ah, my dyslexia again.
Paul – I wasn’t sure what to expect as I read your ad on the front page. I think a price list is only part of the information, hence the 20 questions. We’ve been dabbling w/ ethics and philosophical questions in regards to using other’s design information, so I applied my questions to you to see if the corporate guys have any feelings either way. A lot of people have expressed discontent in giving back for using these designs because is isn’t legal. There are some that just copied Clark outright. I see you have a least tried to answer that you feel you see no way around not using Clarks specs. I can see an independent builder, building for himself doing this, but a start up business doing it tells me some things. I feel that it would be easy to give a little back. I also feel that either you are copying, or your not. That is how I make my personal decisions. I read all the other long dissertations on the legalities of intellectual property and so on. So anyway, I don’t mean disrespect, but I don’t necessarily get behind what you are doing. Obviously, I’m just one person taking the opportunity to ask a couple of questions. It’s great to have a place to do so.
I am watching some other start up here in California and it is interesting to see how different companies can be. Hey, I’m just a small potato feeling my way around.
Thanks Paul.
