How do you know when when a scratch is more than just a scratch???

My leash broke, and my “heavy gun” got washed up on the rocks.  Due to the 4-8 layers of glass, the only damage was heavy “scratches” (And the loss of the two side fins… Boo Hoo!!!  There’s two more fins down to Davey Jones…) - or so I thought.

The “scratches” looked like they got into a layer of two of glass, but not that deep, or so I thought, based on all the glass on it, and I, ignorantly it turned out, just left 'em.   Well, I went to put the board on the car, a while couple weeks and sessions later,  to find water dripping out of a couple of the “scratches.”

My question is:  How do you know when a “scratch” will take on water?  The area is still hard - it doesn’t look like the damage came close to getting through all the glass, so I can only imagine some water “wicked” into the cloth or???  Granted, I “should” have cleaned it up and sealed it, but I was thinking it wouldn’t matter, but it obviously did on two of the seven scratches.

Thanks for putting up with my ignorance - I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s done this, and thus, there are sure to be those out there who can learn from this.

Ps - As soon as I get my soft ware set up… I’ll post some pics… Ha!

Happy Holidays -

Take some diluted dishsoap.  Put it over the crack/scratch.  Squeeze or push on the board around the crack.  If bubbles form then it is a permeable crack.  If nothing happens, then you’re probably okay for now…cracks do grow, so it’s probably better to fix it regardless.

 

8 layers of glass!  I’ve never heard of that!

apply lips

suck

you’ll know

I'm trying to post pics right now...

The blue one gave off water.  The red one didn't.  I think I'll just be sure seal any "scratch" that shows weave.

I have a shot of the blue on once I sanded it down -  Only 6 layers... Ha!  For weight...  a "heavy gun."


Here's the sanded down one... I hope...

For some reason I can't get another pic to upload...

I tried up loading to the Sway pic thing... no luck there either... guess I'll have to look into this more...

Classic... worked fine once, then...  phphphhtttttt

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My question is:  How do you know when a "scratch" will take on water?  The area is still hard - it doesn't look like the damage came close to getting through all the glass, so I can only imagine some water "wicked" into the cloth or???  Granted, I "should" have cleaned it up and sealed it, but I was thinking it wouldn't matter, but it obviously did on two of the seven scratches.

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Well, taking this out of sequence -

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The "scratches" looked like they got into a layer of two of glass, but not that deep, or so I thought, based on all the glass on it, and I, ignorantly it turned out, just left 'em.   Well, I went to put the board on the car, a while couple weeks and sessions later,  to find water dripping out of a couple of the "scratches."

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 Yep, that'd tell me there is definitely a leak. And considerably more than just water wicking in:  just that might make a drop or two, tops, but if you're seeing water dripping out, you got something more serious.

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Thanks for putting up with my ignorance - I'm sure I'm not the only one who's done this, and thus, there are sure to be those out there who can learn from this.

Ps - As soon as I get my soft ware set up... I'll post some pics... Ha!

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Nahh- not ignorance, just something ya don't know yet. So-

Chances are the board managed to inhale water, temp differences or flexing or something. In any event, your first project is to get the water out as completely as possible. Quite a number of ways to do that, which I won't go into here. But it needs to come out, or else your repair won't go well and you'll have other problems down the line.

Then, the repair. I'd take a throwaway brush and cut the bristles short - those will be stiffer and will do a better job of working the resin into the weave. Sand gently (hand sanding is real good for this, you won't chew into the cloth) over any 'weavey' looking areas, get through gloss and hotcoat and kinda scratch into the cloth faintly, then put the resin to it. Work it in well - thinning the resin a little with the appropriate solvent would be a good idea too. When you can't see weave, you have it done right. You're trying to resaturate the fibers with resin, regain a little strength and stiffness and fill pinholes and cracks that have been letting in the water.

Next, sand the new resin a little, lightly to make it nice and smooth, then a layer of cloth over those spots. You might want to cut down another brush for that.  Remember, the glass got compromised there, plain resin alone won't do it. Then, feather the edges, then hotcoat/gloss until it's nice and shiny and you should be done, plus if done right this gets to a near-invisible repair.

hope that's of use

doc...

full moon

baron von suckula

grabbs the board

and pulls it into the

shadows

the smell of salt and water  is

not resistable

 

 

sand till the dust is dusty

wet dust spells hydrophobisssss

sucking best delayed in the pressence of 

fiber glass fiber,unless you wanna cheap

uncomfortable high…ah discomfort

in the winter…

replace foam

drips = foam soakage

remember lateral cracks

require more foam removed

don be fraid…dish out afta , glass w/multi layers

fare out flush with a balsa custom sanding block

2x3 cube adhered w/60 grit recommended 

and finalize with 2 layers of 4oz

hot coat sand an’ gloss

rub out.

 

anal attitude:

dremel out all shatters

to replace glass as previously

delineated  for gaurantee of 

water tight…

easier to do if you are gettin paid well.

if’n it’s your own board it’s easier

to hope it is not leaking

before doing the major ding repair…

 

dont ding your board

better Idea.

…ambrose…

 

best Idea-make a new board,

 

Sucking all dings 

makes you a real surf board 

affectionado,really!

 

The test is can you tell where the

board was being surfed when dinged.

Only the best in ding forensics can do this consistently .

 

old river water is a scary taste.

 

casting for the role of count ding von suckula

in a mall parking lot near you,

friday nights

throughout january

 

 

 

 

I’ll try to get the pic of the sanded “hole” soon.  Both it, and the other one, once sanded down, had slight cracks all the way through… (No duh, huh… Ha!) 

Any way - I guess the next question is: How would you know if what feels solid, and looks like a scratch, has got a little crack all the way through.  I suppose if I tried the soap thing real quick (So as not to let that water soak in.), I’d know if it was that serious or not.  The reason I ponder is, if it seems like the skin has not been breached, and I go and clean up and coat the scratches, but water has gotten in…  Well, you know.  

Any other tips besides the soap/suck methods?

Thanks for all the ding repair tips.  I haven’t addressed 'em, 'cuz I’ve been doing that for 30 years… That’s what got me into all this in the first place… Ha!

Old skewl method (and definitely not the best!!) I use this when camping, as a last ditch session saver - dry the board thoroughly with a towel, set it in the sun or a warm area. Go to the fridge / cooler and get favorite beverage and return to monitor board. About midway through most 12oz beverages, saltwater will appear on compromised areas. At that point “Apply Lips and Suck” to help remove more water. Really, this method should only be used if absolutely nothing else is available - hasn’t your board been through enough without being exposed to excessive heat while saltwater is under its compromised skin?

 

The “Apply lips and suck” method alone is better (for the board, not you), and shows considerable “OG Surfer” factor on the beach; though as Ambrose so aptly noted:

and

    (IMHO on par with Malibu Lagoon)

Suck is king!

impact and crack is instantaneously

followed by an equal inhale of water.

the example of getting punched

in the stomach and then gasping

to regain the lost breath should do it

to esplain the dynamic of grim truth of 

optimism about rail smax on rox or other 

lower life forms in the curl line.

 

 

…ambrose…

 

swim no leash

dont surf ding spots

never fix dings…?

 

**swim no leash**

**dont surf ding spots**

**never fix dings...?**

NEVER!!!!   Ha!!!

....the scratch gets infected and turns orange?