How to build hollow rails for wood board?

Hi all,

this is my first post and am looking for help as I construct my first wood board...to date I have downloaded the free AKU programme and cut my ribs and stringer, my next days off I intend to glue them up. Since I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed I didn't think about hollow or solid rails, so with what I have already cut them out it looks like hollow is my only option, but I don't know how and do I glue the bottom of the board or the top first prior to the rails.

Most of the links I have clicked on, on this subject are dead so any and all info is greatly appreciated!

 

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check this forum out-  I just finished my first HWS… I did bead and cove rails; it took forever and was a total headache. I am not sure if I would do the strip and feather method again if I were to build another.

http://www.grainsurf.com/forum/index.php

 

 

Thanks for the link, great info, will keep me reading for a while yet!

Cheers,

Jeff

Wood_Ogres balsa hallow wood hallow rail, fish with an attitude !!!

 

Wood_Ogres balsa hallow wood hallow rail, fish with an attitude !!!

 

 

 cheers huie

Look up Paul Jensen’s method.  I think the next wood board I do will be done that way. :wink:

Hey Freefaller,

I made videos while making this board for a buddy.  Its a 9’6" Redwood and Alaskan Cedar board… bead and Cove.  Videos are from Ganahl Lumber to the water.  Good luck!

Check out the show your wood post…tones of great info on this site…you’ll do fine.

 

Dg

 

Part 1: www.youtube.com/user/Gallagherwoodsurfboa#p/u/14/nEcjh4aVQQw

Part 2: www.youtube.com/user/Gallagherwoodsurfboa#p/u/16/8P7S2utIYwg

Part 3: www.youtube.com/user/Gallagherwoodsurfboa#p/u/17/g-VPfuCwhuI

Part 4: www.youtube.com/user/Gallagherwoodsurfboa#p/u/11/-TVooQm-0YM

  Part 5: www.youtube.com/user/Gallagherwoodsurfboa#p/u/10/hHOv2k3G1VE

Part 6: www.youtube.com/user/Gallagherwoodsurfboa#p/u/9/wqW5tuIFgP8

     Howzit Wood_Ogre, Better watchout or Lunch Meat will sue you for using the Fish with an attitude name,ha,ha. have you seen the logos he had me make for those boards, they were pretty nice. I actually need to find the disc I have his logos on and send it to him so he can print his own. Aloha,Kokua

Kokua, Lunch Meat has a small board in the back of his red truck at all times with your Fish logo on it. Just saw him at ACE hardware on saturday , he was complaining about gettin OLD ! Hes allways got a bunch of long boards on his truck but I never thought to see what logo he has on them. Hows the cactus surfing? Have you tried the SUP yet ? Aloha

     Howzit Wood_Ogre, So did you checkout the lam, that one took a while to get the colors right but in the end I was happy with it and so was Lunch Meat. I can hear him complaining about getting old since he always has something to say. Just waiting for the water to warm up and finish my remodel job and then it should be warm enough to SUP. My other partner told me today he got a 40 hr a week job and may not be able to help finish the job with me and he is the painter which I hate doing but it looks like I may have to finish the job by myself, which is OK except for the painting. Aloha,Kokua

Here's the link to my epic foray into the world of hollow wood boards:

http://www2.swaylocks.com/node/1028006

It took a lot of planning and effort.  There were many setbacks, but I finally completed it.  I doubt I'll ever build another board using this method because of the amount of labor involved. 

That said...

I love the way the board rides in overhead waves.  It is supper solid.  One time I accidentally dropped the board from about three feet abover the ground.  It landed on the concrete floor directly on the rail.  There was no damage to it.

Scott - that was a great thread, don't know how I missed it!  Pretty sure I have seen this board in person, wish I had taken more pics of it.  Great follow up with the weight and ride report, two critical features of any board, but esp. with hws.

You're right, these boards (hws) are labor-intensive.  But if I follow the dates on your thread correctly, this one was in the oven for a year and a half?  That's epic, fer sure!  You still riding it?

BTW, I always enjoy your posts and your projects.  You and I seem to do similar things, from opposite ends of the spectrum.  I'm OK at math, not great, but I use almost none in my surfboard builds.  Computer shaping programs? Never.  I come at this whole boardbuilding thing from an artistic point of view, I get bogged down quickly in statistics etc.  You thrive on that stuff.  You remind me of my brother.  We used to build model airplanes as kids, and his approach was just 180 degrees different from mine.

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Scott - that was a great thread, don't know how I missed it!  Pretty sure I have seen this board in person, wish I had taken more pics of it.  Great follow up with the weight and ride report, two critical features of any board, but esp. with hws.

You're right, these boards (hws) are labor-intensive.  But if I follow the dates on your thread correctly, this one was in the oven for a year and a half?  That's epic, fer sure!  You still riding it?

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I am still riding it.  It is a great board.  I want to take it up to Plaskett Creek this year.  I think it would work well on that wave.

Edit: Yes it took a year and a half.  I had several starts and stops on the project.  At times I got frustrated with the project.  I would put it on the shelf for several moths, and work on other projects.  We also had a new baby in the middle of the project, which kind of limited my shop time.  I'm glad I finally got it done.

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BTW, I always enjoy your posts and your projects.  You and I seem to do similar things, from opposite ends of the spectrum.  I'm OK at math, not great, but I use almost none in my surfboard builds.  Computer shaping programs? Never.  I come at this whole boardbuilding thing from an artistic point of view, I get bogged down quickly in statistics etc.  You thrive on that stuff.  You remind me of my brother.  We used to build model airplanes as kids, and his approach was just 180 degrees different from mine.

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Haha... Thanks.  I wish I had your artistic ability.  I hear you about using computer shaping programs.  I try to use them as little as possible.  I hand drew the outlines and rocker curves on my last couple of boards. I just used the masonite templates that I had available as French curves.  It is nice to be able to step back 20 feet to look at a full-sized curve, erase a part of it, and go back and redraw it until it is perfect.

I was initially trying to come up with a more efficient build technique with my HWS computer program.  I figured that if I was able to design all the parts with the computer, print out full sized templates, and make precise cuts, then everything would just pop together like legos.  In a way that did happen, but gluing everything together took way longer than I expeced.  I now see that the key to making an efficient HWS build is to minimize the number of in-series glue-up steps. 

I said earlier that I would never build another HWS using the same method, but I may do another one someday using another method. :)