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Like I said, if it didn't offend, it wouldn't be popular. That's the concept.
I've been a board artist for a long time and seen all sorts of groovyness come and go.
Believe it or not I'm fairly conventional - I like what I was taught back in the day - Clean curves, classic airbrush...but I've been requested to paint prettymuch anything on boards.
And the most challenging were the ones where I had to break all my own rules and standards.
That is, where I had to learn to literally flick dribbles of paint at boards and write punk slogans.
But when you get ito it...ITS FUN! and 15 mins a board where I can take hours to do my choice of style.
JD
I agree totally, punk on boards predates punk, H. and to the lucky bastard who gets to throw paint at 50 a day , good luck to you, blame the shaping machine , lol.
was chagall warsaw ghetto art?
I mean where the puk do es ee get off
with flying people in peasant clothes and rainbows?
when the guild says that food on the dinner plate
in the main dining room should stay
inside thr blue stripe on the plates.
meean while back at the ranch
the kids that dont gloss
or even use tape
are real punkz.
they dont even kick out!
they jump off at the end of every ride
with a leg tied to their boards!
they ,some of em ,ride their boards into the peir
not through but into the peir
and damage the boards and keep surfing them
and then come back the nex day wit a patch that dont match
(Pardon me if I for got the ’ in don’t I got ezksited)
I agree this Ghettooo not matching sloppy stuff has just gotta stop!
I makes me itchy just thinking about it.
if these kids wern’t such hot surfers …
well they are just such bad role models
for uh I guess me I just blame jackson pollock
and gosh I donno the guy that spilt the paint on
my old car for making me unruly around the, oink,
pigment …
but yeah I’m over and over and over that too…
…ambrose…
I think I will make a perfect white board
with the bigest cock roach exoskeleton
from makaha
I can find under the glass in the fin
like Hoot Mc groot in that old surfer cartoon.
Maybe it’s just me but everything has it’s place. To me this is kinda of an ironic thread considering we(this site) is all about showing off our creativity and “art”. Who am I or anyone else to say that something isn’t art. Could you imagine someone that has absolutely no connection to surfing stumbling onto this site. They would think we’re all a bunch of freakin weirdos!! C’mon, a whole thread called, “planer porn” HAHA!!
I will agree to an extent though that splashing paint on the bottom of a board with a brush is wayyy less appealing than some beautifully done airbrush work. But, if you’re into the subculture that is fast music and hipster art then you may not find the airbrush creative enough.
Josh, you do some of the most amazing art work of anyone. If you are validating ghetto art, then I need to open my mind a bit. A bit.
This thread kinda reminds me of a story involving James McNeill Whistler's painting "Nocturne in Black and Gold: The Falling Rocket", painted 1875, and art critic John Ruskin.
When this work was exhibited in 1877, the famous art critic John Ruskin declared: "I have seen, and heard, much of cockney impudence before now; but never expected to hear a coxcomb ask two hundred guineas for flinging a pot of paint in the public's face." Whistler immediately took up the challenge, issuing a lawsuit for libel.
Whistler's intention in filing suit was not only to defend his artistic reputation, but to use the trial as a forum for a debate on the nature of art itself.Throughout the trial, he was to avoid referring to his canvasses as "pictures," instead calling them "arrangements," "nocturnes" and even "a problem that I attempt to solve." He wanted the public to see his works not as imparting information about an external world, but as something that "should stand alone, and appeal to the artistic sense of eye." Whistler struggled to impart to a largely uncomprehending public his conception of "art for art's sake", where style and subject came together as one to provide a higher sense of representational truth.
In the most important exchange of the trial, Ruskin's defense asked in contempt: "The labor of two days is that for which you ask two hundred guineas?" Whistler responded: "No. I ask it for the knowledge I have gained in the work of a lifetime." Although Whistler was victorious in the trial, he was awarded only a farthing. The legal expenses he had incurred led to bankruptcy.
Each to there own!!!
Cheers
I like that story. I’ve clipped and saved it. thx
I think the idea is the difference between normal art and abstract art. in my opinion abstract art is weird, and honestly i think that it is lazy. the idea behind art on an object is to make it look like somthing wether it be paint, bronze, or foam.
would you be able to take a chunk of random foam, glass it and call it a surfboard?
the idea is that art is supposed to be thoughtful and carried out skillfully, not somone holding a spray can to a surfboard till it drips.
Hey Greg,
Its funny because I feel two different ways about art on surfboards. With longboards I love classic designs and really clean cutlaps with resin color. With shortboards I love really ghetto art stuff…here are some I did over the past few years. You can tell me if they are your definition of ghetto.
Austin
I think the paint flingers have had the last laugh- List of most expensive paintings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Without even looking, I knew Jackson Pollock would be on that list. Didn't know he'd top the list, 'tho! Two of my favorite artists were there, Van Gogh and Modigliani. Another favorite, Toulouse Lautrec, didn't make it. I didn't see Whistler's abstract, but it is no doubt worth a fortune. Too bad he couldn't have cashed in on some of that while he was still alive. As the article pointed out, the trial bankrupted him. John Ruskin was no slouch, of course, he is a formidable personality in the history of art himself, and the author of Stones of Venice, a highly influential work.
The point of the trial was that Whistler was right (he won the lawsuit), he had the right to call his abstract "art" and charge accordingly. But by awarding such a pittance of a settlement, the jury was assuring the right of the art critic to state his opinion openly.
Some street art, or graphitti art, is beautiful, and impressive in scale also. For others, the intent is nihilistic - its like body piercing or tattoos the purpose of which is to shock and offend. Its ironic that the people who hate it the most, and who are willing to say so, are the very ones who validate its existence. By offending them, it succeeds. That is the point.
Art isn't always about beauty. Sometimes its about the message, a social commentary as it were. Not a fan of nihilism myself, but I do find some street art impressive in its own way.
Two boards. The graphics on each targets a different segment of the surfboard market. Graphics on both done by Yours Truly. Guess which one sold first.
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point taken. I yield. this thread is over for me.
( but technically that is quite a bit more difficult than a rattle can and some masking tape. pretty cool actually.)
id say the fartknocker probably sold first, i wouldnt consider any of the above (austin/atomized) as "ghetto" art, although different they were very skillfully done and with much expertise.
I tend to lean towards the traditional approach, ie the stewart in the photo above, but i also think the al pacino board and the fly board are pretty neat.
i think the debate here is more on skillful artwork vs. non skillful artwork, ie the lost board with the spray paint dripping down the board.
I was schooled in “Art” at a hi-brow art school (took looooong time to pay off). Sadly(?) I’ve pursued shaping surfboards as my passion and life’s path.
The dividing issue MAY be that, we either as backyard whittlers, home-brewers, apperntices or expert craftsmen, create what WE, as the aribritators of “this is a GOOD shape for YOU” create: FORM, function and hopefully a sound hydrodynamic shape for the customer. THEN you got the “what sells” balance.
The sad part (for commerce vs self expression) is we all have different opinions of style, appeal and beauty. Wonderful world w/all our FREEDOM in the USA. We’re surfers: formerly outcasts, different drummer listeners, and abberent life-pathers.
If you’ve got a custom order you get to appease them.
If you’re stocking the shelves at a local shop, you get to suck from the teat of “what’s hot”.
Obiviously a 10’ 50/50 beast is gonna (should) have a classic style of art applied (or not). Classic style ONLY being used as now, w/time we can now look back and claim,
“that was proper”.
If the shape is an EXCITING 6’ x 18.5 x 2.25, well then you’re dealing w/a McDonalds mentaility most of the time. Lowest Common Dummy appeal.
Then you can get the mix. I’ve done “retor color/tint” on shorties and punk/80’s neon on a classic log.
Give the people what they want.
Sad but true…beauty IS in the eye of the beholder.
GOOD, that we as creators of a wonderfully complex form, get to help surfers “surf better”. BAD, that we have to (sometimes) cover such beautiful form+function with whats COOL, in order for consumers to make the leap of faith that this board is somehow BETTER due to it’s hip art (whatever’s going on in the MAGS!) application?
“Ghetto art” is popular due to it’s increased use in media and the fact that’s there’s just too many people in the world w/o a CLUE as to what (should) look good, once again a very subjective viewpoint.
It doesn’t matter the paint-job as much as how well someone can surf it… and this kid rips.
it’s expression.
maybe your demographics, age, circle of friends etc rides a certain style of board… well bring out your bright ghetto art board and show them how you rip on it and they’ll all want one. its happened to me.
hey GT didn’t you know that non-yellowing clear boards sand finished with a liight polish are the fastest boards on earth? also easy to patch when dinged too 
color just cost U more, make it take longer to get it and don’t do anything more for performance.
Personally, like Jamie Sterling I like my boards pink as I always remember my rock climbing ski buddy “bleaker” telling me about “thinking pink” when your are hanging by your fingers off the face of a 100’ plus straight drop down to your death. Since he died doing what he loved i always try and get a mine in pale pink if its possible. The boys in the lineup have a laugh though. All my pink boards rocked though.
either that or some bright neon color you can find after wiping out losing your board and swimming to shore and then running up and down the beach looking out to sea for your board just around sunset.