Just another thing to keep the shapin brutha down (re: new movie Undercover Brother…way too funny) I laminated a board over blue accrylic, sprayed on. The whole bottom of the board crystalized. (shit!) When I cut the FCS fin cup holes in the bottom you could see the glass begin to separate from the blank. Guess I sprayed too much color on the board sealing the pores of the foam. My guess is this board is headed for som serious delamination after alittle use. The only way that I know how to fix this is to cut the glass about 2" from the rail (good bonding there as the rai is a different color) and strip off the glass, sand off all the paint, re-spray, re-laminate,re-hot coat and finish sand. (basically a masive ding repair) Anybody have any comments or similar ocurrances? (refrain from the “how stupid can you possibly be” type of answers please cause I already know that.) Jc
Ohana!(J.C.)…bummah! Whenever I spray, I try to go with light, successive mists of color (with complete drying time between layers of color). I’d rather take a longer time to get complete coverage than rush it with heavier passes (don’t know if that was your case). You can actually get more uniform solids with the “slow but sure” method…better control/more uniformity (less build-up). Don’t know how heavy your dilution was, but with acrylics, I - visually - try to keep the spray mixture the consistancy of heavy cream. (I, then, also strain for impurities). I’ve heard that folks, here at swaylock’s, have used a dilute spray of glue as a fixative with good results…though I’ve not tried it yet. I believe Herb or Tom S. mentioned that one to me. I expect they’ll be chiming in, presently! Good luck! A hui hou! T. (p.s. …It’s always possible you had some form of contaminant in your reservoir/paint)
Ohana!(J.C.)…bummah! Whenever I spray, I try to go with light, > successive mists of color (with complete drying time between layers of > color). I’d rather take a longer time to get complete coverage than rush > it with heavier passes (don’t know if that was your case). You can > actually get more uniform solids with the “slow but sure” > method…better control/more uniformity (less build-up). Don’t know how > heavy your dilution was, but with acrylics, I - visually - try to keep the > spray mixture the consistancy of heavy cream. (I, then, also strain for > impurities). I’ve heard that folks, here at swaylock’s, have used a dilute > spray of glue as a fixative with good results…though I’ve not tried it > yet. I believe Herb or Tom S. mentioned that one to me. I expect they’ll > be chiming in, presently! Good luck! A hui hou! T. (p.s. …It’s always > possible you had some form of contaminant in your reservoir/paint) , …EITHER YOU PUT IT ON REALLY,REALLY THICK ,OR DIDN’T LET IT DRY COMPLETELY…OR AS Jc said you had some kind of contaminant on your blank or in your paint.I’ve put on acrylics really thick and never had this problem…with poster paints, yes. …A FIX: SAND IT OUT,SPRAY THE HOTCOAT WITH A COLOR THEN GLOSS,IT WON’T FIX THE PROBLEM ,BUT IT SURE WILL LOOK ALOT BETTER!Herb
…EITHER YOU PUT IT ON REALLY,REALLY THICK ,OR DIDN’T LET IT DRY > COMPLETELY…OR AS Jc said you had some kind of contaminant on > your blank or in your paint.I’ve put on acrylics really thick and never > had this problem…with poster paints, yes.>>> …A FIX: SAND IT OUT,SPRAY THE HOTCOAT WITH A COLOR THEN > GLOSS,IT WON’T FIX THE PROBLEM ,BUT IT SURE WILL LOOK ALOT BETTER!Herb Thanks Herb…I was contemplating an opaque hotcoat over the effected area but I was realy more concerned about the delam that will occur. Right now I’m going to sand out the hotcoat but what I expect is that the build up of heat from sanding will further aggrivate the matter. This IS really just part of the learning curve. The good news is that my laminating technique on this board was the best I’ve done to date. bottom laps layed down nice and clean w/ little to no fraying. Top lamination reveald NO pin air on the deck or at the lap lines so “I got that goin for me”. We shal see…thanks
Ohana!(J.C.)…bummah! Whenever I spray, I try to go with light, > successive mists of color (with complete drying time between layers of > color). I’d rather take a longer time to get complete coverage than rush > it with heavier passes (don’t know if that was your case). You can > actually get more uniform solids with the “slow but sure” > method…better control/more uniformity (less build-up). Don’t know how > heavy your dilution was, but with acrylics, I - visually - try to keep the > spray mixture the consistancy of heavy cream. (I, then, also strain for > impurities). I’ve heard that folks, here at swaylock’s, have used a dilute > spray of glue as a fixative with good results…though I’ve not tried it > yet. I believe Herb or Tom S. mentioned that one to me. I expect they’ll > be chiming in, presently! Good luck! A hui hou! T. (p.s. …It’s always > possible you had some form of contaminant in your reservoir/paint) Tom…thanks…you got it…Too much paint too much hurry…maybe even too much fixative cause I sprayed some of that on to. Such is the aggrivation of surfboard building! Better luck on next board. JC
Ohana!(J.C.)…bummah! Whenever I spray, I try to go with light, > successive mists of color (with complete drying time between layers of > color). I’d rather take a longer time to get complete coverage than rush > it with heavier passes (don’t know if that was your case). You can > actually get more uniform solids with the “slow but sure” > method…better control/more uniformity (less build-up). Don’t know how > heavy your dilution was, but with acrylics, I - visually - try to keep the > spray mixture the consistancy of heavy cream. (I, then, also strain for > impurities). I’ve heard that folks, here at swaylock’s, have used a dilute > spray of glue as a fixative with good results…though I’ve not tried it > yet. I believe Herb or Tom S. mentioned that one to me. I expect they’ll > be chiming in, presently! Good luck! A hui hou! T. (p.s. …It’s always > possible you had some form of contaminant in your reservoir/paint) I use the glue dilution, but only with Tempra paint. Acrylic bonds just fine by itself if applied properly.
Now the fun begins : sometimes when you screw up and everyone does its fun (after you cool down) to see how great you can make the board look: I try to look at it as a chance to test my skills (and patience, this I useally fail) but never the less it always gets interesting —I’ve seen your stuff ,Ohana you can fix it and it will look great and later you’ll have some great stories about how you did it----can’t wait to see the finished product
Now the fun begins : sometimes when you screw up and everyone does its > fun (after you cool down) to see how great you can make the board look: I > try to look at it as a chance to test my skills (and patience, this I > useally fail) but never the less it always gets interesting —I’ve seen > your stuff ,Ohana you can fix it and it will look great and later you’ll > have some great stories about how you did it----can’t wait to see the > finished product Hello Mr. CDB…how are the camps goin this year…saw the website and it looks like you’ve developed a great format. As for the board…it was a custom for my freinds daughter and I committed to some graphics that no self respecting board builder would ever do. The backstory is that the kid is only 5 and designed her own board complete with picture of how she wanted it to look. She even named it. (also included in the board) She was soooooooo stoked about the whole thing that I didn’t have the heart to tell her no. Since my whole thing is about family (Ohana) and that is what we are all or should be to each other as those who share the stoke…(pretty eutopian don’t you think)I decided to go ahead with it. It’s going to Fernandina so I’ll never have to deal with the chiding and humiliation from those like Hart or Wiz. Good hearing from you. I’ll be by eventually to get a blank or two and try out the techniques and tips you imparted on me a couple weeks ago. JC