Incide Blanks. Anybody else try these?

General Discussion
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So I had an EPS Epoxy customer request a Incide blank this time around.

If anybody does not know what these are, here’s their discription,

Its not about the foam, its about what’s INCIDE…

A high tech blank with a carbon interior part that gives the shaper and ultimately the surfer infinite control over the flex of the surfboard. Think of a snowboard INCIDE a surfboard: All the magic and flex of your favorite board with faster recoil that lasts.

I should mention they are distributed by US Blanks.

So I shaped it up. (By hand of course). No stringer. Actually shape quite easy as there is no center stringer to slow you down.

Flex feels very much as a wooden stringer.

Finished weight feels good. Approx. 6lbs. I did use a 6/4 deck.

Finished board is 6’ 4" x 20.0" x 2.5"

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looks good barry!

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Board looks good!

I’d be keen to try one…

“faster recoil” is not necessarily a good thing though.

Any ride reports yet?

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what is the cost like compared to a standard poly blank?

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Waiting for a ride reveiw.

Price is double.

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That says it all;  “price is double”   And most likly not enough differance in perfomance to justify the extra cost. 

 

 

 

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Here is something on youtube with the designer going into the thoughts behind it. It is also cool cause you can fast forward to around 10:30 and they show the carbon fiber center part. I would be curious if someone has tried something similar in the sense of putting a piece of wood sideways in the center and somehow gluing two pieces of foam around it, i.e. like a sideways stringer.

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For a select group of talented surfers, pros and elite amatures, there is definately merit to this concept.  The rest don’t surf well enough or with enough power to load and unload the flex of a board and even if they did they wouldn’t know what to do with the flex.  I would also think that these elite surfers would need to go through quite a few boards to find the best flex for their style of surfing and type of waves being ridden as every rider and type of conditions would need a different shape and flex pattern.  Kind of like different shafts on golf clubs or different flexes on fishing rods.  

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There is a reason I keep a bunch of old Taylormades in my shaping shack, now go figure it out. Already posted once and yes it works great. Cheap too

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There was a company back in the 60s that marketed a board with what they termed a “transverse stringer”. It was a layer of wood that was horizontal in orientation, rather than vertical. In other words, it ran rail to rail. I believe they were popouts, though. If I happen to come across an ad I will scan and post.

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The only problem with the sideways stringer is strength,

Say you were to hold a tongue depressor flat.

Bend it.

Snaps easily.

Hold it on its side,

much stronger.

That is how a striger works.

At least carbon is stiff in any position.

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I have one made in Oct 2011 and it still has normal good flex----- no breakdown and dailed in repeatability is the point.

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Barry,

The more I think about it definitely hard to figure out how to do a transverse stringer, short of doing what the Incide guys are doing. I did find another site where they were replacing wood stringers with composite cloth, which looked neat too, but same idea as wood stringer. Granted I I would love to get my hands on one of your boards with one of those agave stringers!

 

Cool post Keith, I could see pulling up to a break, looking at the surf and saying, I think I will use my 3 iron, or on a small day, how about a pitching wedge:)

Nice board lavarat, I like the repeatability part. 

I am definitely trying one for my next board.

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I make my blanks with composite springer inserted in foam. Allow me to design dynamic flex of my eps/epoxy board and keep durability. I test compsand, with wood, foam, both, but they are to long end expensive to build, often too stiff and too hard. My best boards were stringerless eps epoxy but they buckle. So i work to keep this feel but with buckling résistance. I started with all kind of reinforcement and i find an efficient solution to use springer in core for longitudinal strengh and dynamic flex with flexible tough skin for protection. It´s still in développement but in progress…