…The wife kicked me out,I’m just tearing things down and packing things up.I have to find a storage place,and I guess I’ll live out of my truck until first sign of winter shows.I will be dropping my ISP, it is on my card.Maybe from time to time I can stop off at Kinko’s and see what’s up.HERBSPITZER SIGNING OUT…by the way…it’s been a gas,see ya in the next life,and don’t be late!Herb
…The wife kicked me out,I’m just tearing things down and packing > things up.I have to find a storage place,and I guess I’ll live out of my > truck until first sign of winter shows.I will be dropping my ISP, it is on > my card.Maybe from time to time I can stop off at Kinko’s and see what’s > up.HERBSPITZER SIGNING OUT…by the way…it’s been > a gas,see ya in the next life,and don’t be late!Herb No F*cking way! Herb I thought things were starting to click again for you. I hope you’ll swing down this way and catch some ways. When you need a shower & a shave we’ve got it set up in the office behind me. Good luck and hope to hear from you soon.
…The wife kicked me out,I’m just tearing things down and packing > things up.I have to find a storage place,and I guess I’ll live out of my > truck until first sign of winter shows.I will be dropping my ISP, it is on > my card.Maybe from time to time I can stop off at Kinko’s and see what’s > up.HERBSPITZER SIGNING OUT…by the way…it’s been > a gas,see ya in the next life,and don’t be late!Herb Hey Herb, Where abouts are you headed?? Are you in California? Gone Surfin’, Rich
…The wife kicked me out,I’m just tearing things down and packing > things up.I have to find a storage place,and I guess I’ll live out of my > truck until first sign of winter shows.I will be dropping my ISP, it is on > my card.Maybe from time to time I can stop off at Kinko’s and see what’s > up.HERBSPITZER SIGNING OUT…by the way…it’s been > a gas,see ya in the next life,and don’t be late!Herb I’m really sorry. Let’s hope someone in the area can throw down and help a brother out. Hopefully we won’t be without your expertise and mentoring too long. Khalil Gibran - (it’s long) And now it was evening. And Almitra the seeress said, “Blessed be this day and this place and your spirit that has spoken.” And he answered, Was it I who spoke? Was I not also a listener? Then he descended the steps of the Temple and all the people followed him. And he reached his ship and stood upon the deck. And facing the people again, he raised his voice and said: People of Orphalese, the wind bids me leave you. Less hasty am I than the wind, yet I must go. We wanderers, ever seeking the lonelier way, begin no day where we have ended another day; and no sunrise finds us where sunset left us. Even while the earth sleeps we travel. We are the seeds of the tenacious plant, and it is in our ripeness and our fullness of heart that we are given to the wind and are scattered. Brief were my days among you, and briefer still the words I have spoken. But should my voice fade in your ears, and my love vanish in your memory, then I will come again, And with a richer heart and lips more yielding to the spirit will I speak. Yea, I shall return with the tide, And though death may hide me, and the greater silence enfold me, yet again will I seek your understanding. And not in vain will I seek. If aught I have said is truth, that truth shall reveal itself in a clearer voice, and in words more kin to your thoughts. I go with the wind, people of Orphalese, but not down into emptiness; And if this day is not a fulfillment of your needs and my love, then let it be a promise till another day. Know therefore, that from the greater silence I shall return. The mist that drifts away at dawn, leaving but dew in the fields, shall rise and gather into a cloud and then fall down in rain. And not unlike the mist have I been. In the stillness of the night I have walked in your streets, and my spirit has entered your houses, And your heart-beats were in my heart, and your breath was upon my face, and I knew you all. Ay, I knew your joy and your pain, and in your sleep your dreams were my dreams. And oftentimes I was among you a lake among the mountains. I mirrored the summits in you and the bending slopes, and even the passing flocks of your thoughts and your desires. And to my silence came the laughter of your children in streams, and the longing of your youths in rivers. And when they reached my depth the streams and the rivers ceased not yet to sing. But sweeter still than laughter and greater than longing came to me. It was boundless in you; The vast man in whom you are all but cells and sinews; He in whose chant all your singing is but a soundless throbbing. It is in the vast man that you are vast, And in beholding him that I beheld you and loved you. For what distances can love reach that are not in that vast sphere? What visions, what expectations and what presumptions can outsoar that flight? Like a giant oak tree covered with apple blossoms is the vast man in you. His mind binds you to the earth, his fragrance lifts you into space, and in his durability you are deathless. You have been told that, even like a chain, you are as weak as your weakest link. This is but half the truth. You are also as strong as your strongest link. To measure you by your smallest deed is to reckon the power of ocean by the frailty of its foam. To judge you by your failures is to cast blame upon the seasons for their inconsistency. Ay, you are like an ocean, And though heavy-grounded ships await the tide upon your shores, yet, even like an ocean, you cannot hasten your tides. And like the seasons you are also, And though in your winter you deny your spring, Yet spring, reposing within you, smiles in her drowsiness and is not offended. Think not I say these things in order that you may say the one to the other, “He praised us well. He saw but the good in us.” I only speak to you in words of that which you yourselves know in thought. And what is word knowledge but a shadow of wordless knowledge? Your thoughts and my words are waves from a sealed memory that keeps records of our yesterdays, And of the ancient days when the earth knew not us nor herself, And of nights when earth was upwrought with confusion, Wise men have come to you to give you of their wisdom. I came to take of your wisdom: And behold I have found that which is greater than wisdom. It is a flame spirit in you ever gathering more of itself, While you, heedless of its expansion, bewail the withering of your days. It is life in quest of life in bodies that fear the grave. There are no graves here. These mountains and plains are a cradle and a stepping-stone. Whenever you pass by the field where you have laid your ancestors look well thereupon, and you shall see yourselves and your children dancing hand in hand. Verily you often make merry without knowing. Others have come to you to whom for golden promises made unto your faith you have given but riches and power and glory. Less than a promise have I given, and yet more generous have you been to me. You have given me deeper thirsting after life. Surely there is no greater gift to a man than that which turns all his aims into parching lips and all life into a fountain. And in this lies my honour and my reward, - That whenever I come to the fountain to drink I find the living water itself thirsty; And it drinks me while I drink it. Some of you have deemed me proud and over-shy to receive gifts. To proud indeed am I to receive wages, but not gifts. And though I have eaten berries among the hill when you would have had me sit at your board, And slept in the portico of the temple where you would gladly have sheltered me, Yet was it not your loving mindfulness of my days and my nights that made food sweet to my mouth and girdled my sleep with visions? For this I bless you most: You give much and know not that you give at all. Verily the kindness that gazes upon itself in a mirror turns to stone, And a good deed that calls itself by tender names becomes the parent to a curse. And some of you have called me aloof, and drunk with my own aloneness, And you have said, “He holds council with the trees of the forest, but not with men. He sits alone on hill-tops and looks down upon our city.” True it is that I have climbed the hills and walked in remote places. How could I have seen you save from a great height or a great distance? How can one be indeed near unless he be far? And others among you called unto me, not in words, and they said, Stranger, stranger, lover of unreachable heights, why dwell you among the summits where eagles build their nests? Why seek you the unattainable? What storms would you trap in your net, And what vaporous birds do you hunt in the sky? Come and be one of us. Descend and appease your hunger with our bread and quench your thirst with our wine." In the solitude of their souls they said these things; But were their solitude deeper they would have known that I sought but the secret of your joy and your pain, And I hunted only your larger selves that walk the sky. But the hunter was also the hunted: For many of my arrows left my bow only to seek my own breast. And the flier was also the creeper; For when my wings were spread in the sun their shadow upon the earth was a turtle. And I the believer was also the doubter; For often have I put my finger in my own wound that I might have the greater belief in you and the greater knowledge of you. And it is with this belief and this knowledge that I say, You are not enclosed within your bodies, nor confined to houses or fields. That which is you dwells above the mountain and roves with the wind. It is not a thing that crawls into the sun for warmth or digs holes into darkness for safety, But a thing free, a spirit that envelops the earth and moves in the ether. If this be vague words, then seek not to clear them. Vague and nebulous is the beginning of all things, but not their end, And I fain would have you remember me as a beginning. Life, and all that lives, is conceived in the mist and not in the crystal. And who knows but a crystal is mist in decay? This would I have you remember in remembering me: That which seems most feeble and bewildered in you is the strongest and most determined. Is it not your breath that has erected and hardened the structure of your bones? And is it not a dream which none of you remember having dreamt that building your city and fashioned all there is in it? Could you but see the tides of that breath you would cease to see all else, And if you could hear the whispering of the dream you would hear no other sound. But you do not see, nor do you hear, and it is well. The veil that clouds your eyes shall be lifted by the hands that wove it, And the clay that fills your ears shall be pierced by those fingers that kneaded it. And you shall see And you shall hear. Yet you shall not deplore having known blindness, nor regret having been deaf. For in that day you shall know the hidden purposes in all things, And you shall bless darkness as you would bless light. After saying these things he looked about him, and he saw the pilot of his ship standing by the helm and gazing now at the full sails and now at the distance. And he said: Patient, over-patient, is the captain of my ship. The wind blows, and restless are the sails; Even the rudder begs direction; Yet quietly my captain awaits my silence. And these my mariners, who have heard the choir of the greater sea, they too have heard me patiently. Now they shall wait no longer. I am ready. The stream has reached the sea, and once more the great mother holds her son against her breast. Fare you well, people of Orphalese. This day has ended. It is closing upon us even as the water-lily upon its own tomorrow. What was given us here we shall keep, And if it suffices not, then again must we come together and together stretch our hands unto the giver. Forget not that I shall come back to you. A little while, and my longing shall gather dust and foam for another body. A little while, a moment of rest upon the wind, and another woman shall bear me. Farewell to you and the youth I have spent with you. It was but yesterday we met in a dream. You have sung to me in my aloneness, and I of your longings have built a tower in the sky. But now our sleep has fled and our dream is over, and it is no longer dawn. The noontide is upon us and our half waking has turned to fuller day, and we must part. If in the twilight of memory we should meet once more, we shall speak again together and you shall sing to me a deeper song. And if our hands should meet in another dream, we shall build another tower in the sky. So saying he made a signal to the seamen, and straightaway they weighed anchor and cast the ship loose from its moorings, and they moved eastward. And a cry came from the people as from a single heart, and it rose the dusk and was carried out over the sea like a great trumpeting. Only Almitra was silent, gazing after the ship until it had vanished into the mist. And when all the people were dispersed she still stood alone upon the sea-wall, remembering in her heart his saying, A little while, a moment of rest upon the wind, and another woman shall bear me." http://www.robgalbraith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
Herb, Go by a public Library to check it’s free. Stay in touch! It’s not the end it’s the beginning. Later, Rich
Herb,>>> Go by a public Library to check it’s free. Stay in touch! It’s not the end > it’s the beginning.>>> Later, Rich …I don’t know where I’m going?I work nights so during the day I can kick back at the state parks for free in the day use,with my cattle dog “Shelby”(she got booted too)SORRY FOR RAMBLING ON,NOT IN MY RIGHT MIND RIGHT NOW THANKS EVERYONE ,I GOT TO GO FINISH PACKING AND GET OUT BEFORE SHE FINDS OUT I GOT BACK IN,THANKS AGAIN FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.REALLY…Herb(I’ll miss my daughters)BY THE WAY MY JOB TRAVELS TOO!
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced… Hang in there Herb! I love ya man!
Holy shit batman if we need to ask Herb we will have to go to the archives!
Holy shit batman if we need to ask Herb we will have to go to the > archives! Herb, Even though we have never met you are the kind of person everyone should get to know in their life. I sorry we never met in person but I really will miss your kind soul and great words… Mark Scott Scott surf designs
Herb - I wish you the best, if it was not for you and Tom Stern I would have never attempted to shape to begin with. I’ll say a prayer for you. P.V.
Herb, We’re all really going to miss you. I hope this isn’t the last we see or read from Herb Spitzer. Stay in touch bro. Mike
Herb, Sorry to hear of your situation. I was involved in a bitter divorce a few years back myself and was glad that I had support of friends and surfing to see me thru some gloomy days. Hopefully what youre going thru is the worst that its gonna get. You still have yourself to look to, moral support from swaylockians here and hopefully close friends and relatives. I do hope you will be able to see your daughters (I have a 16 yr old) and who knows maybe even reconciliation. Good luck to you… FD
nothing’s ever over while we still breathe and tick, bro. i feel like the swaylock planet is out of orbit now. but aside from being THE most rock solid of contributors, you’ve got your life and your relationships and the most important things are the ones that revolve around the heart. i’ve got a feeling that you’re being tested…life wouldn’t be life if we weren’t tested on occasion. so chin up my man, the light is there at the end of the tunnel. things will be better, i’m sure of it. please keep in touch whenever possible. ramon
nothing’s ever over while we still breathe and tick, bro. i feel like the > swaylock planet is out of orbit now. but aside from being THE most rock > solid of contributors, you’ve got your life and your relationships and the > most important things are the ones that revolve around the heart. i’ve got > a feeling that you’re being tested…life wouldn’t be life if we weren’t > tested on occasion. so chin up my man, the light is there at the end of > the tunnel. things will be better, i’m sure of it. please keep in touch > whenever possible. ramon …Back-in for another load,and to check Swaylock’s,I have tears in my eyes…Thanks…AND REMEMBER WHAT THIS WEBSITE IS ABOUT!!! DON’T OVER LOOK THE BEGINNERS!!! IN THIS PILE OF CYBERMINDS COULDBE THE NEXT KELLY SLATER,GERRY LOPEZ,LAIRD OR EVEN DICK BREWER!..AND…I WILLLLL BE BACK!Herb
You will be O.K. Herb,it takes more than this to put a good man down.You are a “Swaylaholic” and the only way off of this site is either being tossed off,or a good twelve step program.I am sure that you can find a Bro with a cumputer somewhere,we would like to hear the story as it unfolds.Besides that you need to build that cordless planer for us.I think we should rename this thread “ITS JUST STARTING FOR ME GUYS”.If you are ever on the East Coast I’ll put you up in my batchelor rat hole with the shop in the back yard,I have tons of tools to play with. Roger Brucker
Sorry to hear that, Herb. Fool in the Mirror, Guy Clark: I wake up every morning & what do I see I got a fool in my mirror & he’s lyin to me He says aw man, she’s comin back you just hide & watch That fool in my mirror singin the same ol song but it still dont change the fact that my baby is gone I got wrinkles round my eyes i got grey in my hair I’m puttin on a little bit of weight but I don’t seem to care Fool say, hey slick you lookin good. lie lie lie That fool in my mirror singin the same old song but it still dont change the fact that my baby is gone. I just figured out what she meant when she said She was not comming back, so why don’t I drop dead. I cant live with him I cant live without him I don’t believe a word he says but I do not dare doubt him He says, aw man she just went to get a loaf of bread. Don’t worry. Say you losin a little bit of weight arent you? …lyin son of a bitch. _____________ I met a guy today, out with his two daughters. I figured that he was either divorced or his wife died. When he told me his wife had just died, I said “good, I was afraid you were divorced.” I had to backpedal, but that’s still the way it feels. …so much selfishness around. The effects are worse than death. If you can save it, do. I’ll be glad to do whatever I can. If not …time & distance. Thanks for the good times. See ya in the lineup! -Noodle
Hey Herb, I’m very sorry to hear this, I’ved always learned and appreciated your posts very much. Just remember “life is like a box of chocolates…” Best of luck from Puerto Rico, PC
HERB: LIKE MANY ON HERE I DON’T THINK WE EVER MET PERSONALLY BUT , THIS IS TROUBLING --SCARES ME TO THINK OF LIFE WITHOUT MY WIFE AND KIDS (BEEN DIVORCED ONCE -LOST IT ALL BUT I GOT THE KID-NOW 20 AND THE DOG) SO ALL I CAN SAY SAY IS LOVE YA MAN AND IF THERE IS ANYWAY BEG,CRAWL,PLEAD, OR CRY TO GET BACK WITH YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTERS —DO IT—I KNOW ITS WORTH IT —IF NOT YOU GOT A FRIEND FOREVER OVER HERE ON THE E.C. SO IF YOU NEED ANYTHING LET ME KNOW
hang in there herb. it sounds really lame but just take it one day at a time. things will get better. reallysorry to hear you hit such a hard patch. let us know what we can do.
…The wife kicked me out,I’m just tearing things down and packing > things up.I have to find a storage place,and I guess I’ll live out of my > truck until first sign of winter shows.I will be dropping my ISP, it is on > my card.Maybe from time to time I can stop off at Kinko’s and see what’s > up.HERBSPITZER SIGNING OUT…by the way…it’s been > a gas,see ya in the next life,and don’t be late!Herb Well Herb, let me be the first to offer up my shaping room to you, we have more than safe, ample parking here too.