…I’m not sure if that’s an ad for “J.J.Moon” , or Karl Pope .
[ Or if in fact , they are both the same person , perhaps ?? ]
ben
scott
someone in calif makes them… I saw an article on it but they blow them full of foam.
I was just imagining a perfectly clear hollow plastic board. maybe use lexan for ribs/support. now that would be cool… like a glass-bottom boat effect, you could see anything under you. lol
someone is Oceanside makes them, fills them with expanded poly pro I believe. Better than hollow, that’s for sure, but still a pop out.
Nice little history, Karl, thanks for the link.
One correction…Grubby didn’t go to “Claremont College in Pomona”, but to Pomona College in Claremont. Just like me 
We’re a little touchy about that…the City of Pomona wouldn’t have been nearly as nice a place to spend 4 years…and my wife went to Claremont (McKenna) College, but not me or Grubby.
three schools in that area right?
pomona for the normal folks
clairmont for mini-nerds(expensive cal poly)
and harvey mudd for full on nerds (cheap cal tech)
I thought the pathway was clairmont then lawschool.
I couldn’t afford the tuition or I would’ve been there or UCSD where scripps was.
Dreamed of Scripps, Cal Tech, Woods Hole and got on their waiting lists
Harvey Mudd was a close second
Ended up at UW in cold and wet Seattle instead
5 schools, actually, with a common library, science labs, etc…
Pomona is the oldest, largest, specializes in full-on liberal arts ed with majors in nearly everything. Lots of pre-meds & future professors. If I applied today, I wouldn’t get in again. Harvey Mudd is physics/math/engineering - just about the same as CalTech but only 440 students or so. Claremont McKenna is known for Accounting/business/government - yep, then to law school or MBA’s. Scripps is all women, broad liberal arts. Pitzer is the '60’s child of the bunch, lots of social sciences & art, The UC Santa Cruz of the Claremont Colleges.
Ain’t none of 'em cheap anymore.
Edit: I’m talking Scripps College, you were talking Scripps Institute of Oceanography. No matter what any of us dreamed of as high school seniors, I don’t figure we ever really thought we had a shot at getting into a women’s college
Yea I forgot about the Scripps up there…
That would’ve interesting to get accepted there or at Brown…
Aside from surfing the ultimate metrosexual experience…
Hey Greg… yep, you’ve gone too far, you should have stayed at the “Big house” at Sunset…i think the surf’s coming down to my size tomorrow!,danny
find all the info mind stimulating,funny how people give so much credit to great surfers as having more insight into riding a wave to the masses,truth is they have a gift that with time will fade away and just be a memory but so do you, time on the water and enjoying whatever level your on.if the great ones had the zen they would manufacture boards that would be you feel in the blamk? truth is they all are doing about the same thing. many have been chasing the grail of surfboards the greenough quote from the 60’s posted somewhere is still valid today read some place that his favorite waves were not over 8 feet.does that make his concepts not valid for lets say laird h? would laird be interested in making a board design for the 8 foot and under crowd not speaking for laird but it would probably be a massive standup paddle board that most couldnt even turn.as i see the water get more crowed at all levels i find myself finding more reasons not to surf something that in my 40 plus years of surfing that i thought would never happen along with that comes loss of skill, but i have had great memories alone and with friends i will share one [before the leash], riding rincon with my best friend early morning the two of us out never talking riding waves from the indicator all the way to the cove belly riding in and running back up to the point to paddle back out on the run seeing my friend riding a wave and he doing the same as me.did i ever care who the best surfer in the world was at that moment it was and still is totally irrelevant a great board can make a difference but time on the water is the key greenough once said it was all about the fin aloha…
I love this thread . … its what got me into this site . . . I found this by accident on google … . about 7 mo’s ago when looking for sites on surfing . . .
I got accepted into UCSD but didn’t go. Not enough $$, plus it’d seem SDSU was a good enough . . . I’m realizing you could have all the degrees in the world and lack drive and motivation and wisdom and intelligence . …
I agree that water time is necessary . . . it’s just a great. Practice . . . just wonderful . . . you need that water time. Also the greatness of the foundation that surfing is built upon . . . pu / pe and balsa, and the olo . … to the new tech stuff like carbon fiber . . .
Fins are important . … I remember I was talking about FCS and someone said fins are important. Told me to ride the bic with out any fins. I did … . very humbled . . . couldn’t catch a wave, board would slide out etc . . . Fins are important, and the rest of the board compliments it . …
Anycase the future only will work to advance surfing if backyarders and people that surf are able to influence the shapes and fin designs. If only the industry and pros influence, then thats where the top designs are . . . and thats where they cater to . . . also it can get stagnent. To keep this aspect of custom and the surfer / shaper relationship . …
If you look to anyone who actually cares about what they are doing (yacht racing, home improvement, monster garage, aerobatic flying etc) . . . its all custom.
I think alot of backlash to going high tech is that surfer-shaper relationship is removed, as in surftech’s case. Instead of having your coffee brewed by Mom at Mom’s Grinds, who know that you want a table spoon of real cocoa, no cream in your dark Nigerian banded coffee vs picking the star bucks mocha grande . . .
But this thread is what got me to reading sways . …
Here’s and article on the place in Oceanside.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/02/20/business/news/14_15_312_19_05.txt
They went under a few months ago, a co-worker is a close friend of the owner.
The tooling costs for the polycarbonate shells were astronomical and they couldn’t get their costs down at the volumes they were looking at. Customization was a serious problem as well. Never did get to try one.
Matt