Juan De Fuca advice

For you PNW’ers

There’s a short, sizeable burst heading our way this weekend; was thinking about a day mission down from Vancouver. There would be me and one other…so as not to cause a crowd, or too many transportation headaches.

Any tips on where I might want to go to get a piece of it in the Straight?

Was thinking early early ferry from Whidbey and heading along the Straight from there; just a day mission; in and out before it drops too much. Pointers, locations, maps are appreciated.

Looking for…you know…peaky, tasty rides. Something to try out the new 6’6" balsacomp on. :D.

Cheers,

G

I think you’ll be wanting to go between Port Angeles and Neah Bay.

Thanks Dave…are you sure you’re not Australian? That’s taking the piss if I’ve ever seen/heard it.

Anyways, not asking for anyone to divulge their “secret” spots…

Just a heads up from someone who knows the spots; knows how to read swell angles/tides for an early morning Saturday sesh and can help minimize the amount of “Oh…that looks pretty good…maybe we should dive a bit further” kind of discussion in the car.

Less driving = more water.

I’m even happy to bring a dozen Tim Hortons and PBR’s for anyone with the good tips.

Cheers,

G

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Thanks Dave....are you sure you're not Australian? That's taking the piss if I've ever seen/heard it.

Anyways, not asking for anyone to divulge their “secret” spots…

Try the one on the reservation.

Suggest you PM someone like Paul Jensen.

all that highly secretive info for some pabst blue ribbons come on !!! lol

That’s what I love about swaylocks.

That’s what I love about the pm.

The stoke and secrecy of surfing new spots and meeting new people, without having to announce it to the world.

went there on a happy go lucky trip from sf, was very turned off from the whole Juan De Fuca sceen due to the land ownership/properity lines thing… if you go, at least on the US side, i would get a detailed map as many properity lines extend into the surf breaks… we discovered this the hard way by pissing off some red neck land owners and then a few local surfers who were not happy that we were upsetting their delicate balance… it is a very strange thing that they can own into the water but they do and it is somthing that they take very seriously…

i own a water front house in Michigan that had a private beach and just this year Michigan passed a law saying no beaches are private and anyone can use the beaches up to the high water mark. At first we were bumed and then i started think about the Juan de Fuca nightmear and decided that it was actually a good thing… so my advise is tread extra lightly…

sorry to be politica but i feel costline access is a legit topic that directly relates to surfing, not understanding it can lead to heaps of trouble…

get a boat and go across their strait of juan de puka…i know where and when …and its going off right now …just kiddin…no serious its head high and perfect out here…nope it sucks…cant really tell ya but it needs more north in the swell to hit the u.s.A its pretty west …lets trade info pm me…i may also be heading up there to your part of the woods

Just a bit of advice. Be really respectful, ESPECIALLY when on tribal land. You could very well find perfect waves, alone.

There has been some tension in the air (and water) as somebody who went by the name Matt P spread heaps of lesser known spots via the internet.

What made people particularly pissed was the fact that he did so out of spite. He didn’t like how people were super protective and so he spilled the beans and then left the area for good (we think). The spots he revealed were not “secret” but they were less frequented and required low impact visitation because most of the locals are not surfers. They are loggers, fishermen…good people who are usually tolerant of outsiders. It is good to be very respectful of these people. You could even make a few friends.

When you do go (now and in the future), enjoy it. It is one of my favorite places in all the world and I am glad to see others enjoy it. There are some great waves of all shapes and sizes. Buy a rec pass in Neah Bay. Buy a map, explore. It’s so fun to explore.

I know others have had different experiences in this area. My 2 cents is just that, my own. Overall, HAVE FUN!!

~Rob

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You can tell the world about all the little out of the way places in Baja, but not the Olympic peninsula. What’s up w/ that?

Localism is the word you’re looking for I think.

Pretty rife in many animal nations.

Nature working in pure forms.

Keep it up!

Aloha EasternPacfic

Why would anyone want to publicly publicize either?

Personally escort a trusted friend and aclimitize them to the local culture…fine.

Tell the world…disasterous!

Aloha Bill

I want to thank you for your participation here at Sways. It’s been great learning from your experience and wonderful listening to your articulate stories.

I agree on being discrete. We’ve had a long thread on the ins and outs of back road Baja travel. It seemed like a right of passage to divulge the stories and give praise to all before them. I think my post is calling the hand.

Because someone gave up your favorite spots in Baja, you think that its only right to give up spots on the Oly Peninsula?

Help me out here, I don’t get it.

Or someone from Washington gave up Baja spots, so now its only right that you give up the Oly Pen spots as revenge?

That must be it.

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I think he’s advising discretion at either place. Not a bad call?

Aloha EastPac

What a beautiful fin!

Exposing unknown surf spots has always been a huge dilemma for surfers.

You want to share your good experiences with others, but in so doing, it will ruin the very experience that you held so dear.

Some exposure it inevitable. But too many need to tell of the secrets for their own reasons of self esteem and need to “BE” somebody who knows something that others don’t. Others, happily keep the secrets and reap uncrowded rewards. We live in a fast food world, where few surfers want to do the exploring anymore. They want a map with GPS coordinates and detailed descriptions of when the spot breaks. Have you ever noticed that the farther someone is removed from the spot they are exposing, the more details they are willing to hand over about someone else’s backyard break!?!

How exposure really gets accelerated is by those who find a way to reap commercial benefit from exposing it (surfing paparazzi) instead of just enjoying what they had discovered with a few select friends.

Each new group of “discoverers” usually come from more crowded places that have left them more acclimatized to larger crowds. Because of this, they feel like the new discovery is super UNcrowded. No matter how crowded the new spot is, they don’t realize it only seems uncrowded because their old spot was more crowded.

So when the waves of newcomers are in their 3rd pulse, the original first pulse guys, consider it so crowded that they don’t care anymore as it is now ruined by their “uncrowded standard”, so they feel it is ok to jump in and write an article for the magazines. And if they don’t do it, the newcomers will because at least one of them wants to become “somebody” by getting their name in the magazine and impressing their sponsors.

This quickly pushes the crowding to the 8th pulse level and the guys from the 3rd pulse now feel it is so crowded that they don’t care anymore and decide it is a now a really good idea to make some bucks putting on a surf contest that gets huge coverage in the magazines and TV.

This easily pushes the crowding to the 15th pulse and the guys from the 8th pulse now don’t care anymore cause it is way to crowded for them and so they buy up all the property on the beach, subdivide it and sell houses and lots to surfers in the 15th pulse.

The 15th pulse newcomers don’t think it is all that crowed compared to where they came from and they don’t want to leave, but don’t have the incomes to live there and pay for their new houses, so they illegally turn their garages and carports into vacation rentals, etc so that they can rent to the 20th pulse guys and not have to go get real jobs.

Soon the 15th pulse guys are so overwhelmed by the 20th pulse newcomers, that they are renting to, they don’t care anymore. So they allow the 20th pulse newcomers to do whatever they want in the rentals and the emerging town. Before long the new community is taken over by all the newcomers and their irresponsible culture which has little resemblance to the small, safe community of surfers that made up the first couple of pulses.

Now there are droves of new people daily, wild parties, backyard activities, a booming underground economy of graft, corruption, thefts, drugs, violence and even murders.

Surfers still exist, as do the waves now breaking in polluted waters from thousands of flushing toilets. But few come for the waves anymore anyway. They come because the place has a world wide reputation for being a cool scene. Even Brook Burke is there with “Wild On”. The place now attracts those who want be cool, to escape, to party out and do whatever they feel like doing… and they angrily presume a right to do it, should anyone dare tell them different.

No one knows how to bring the town under control and those old timers that now can see the need to, have so many skeletons in their own closets that they can’t stand up publicly and suggest solutions for fear of being exposed. There seems no escape… except for the Mayflower bobbing in the harbor.

Did you see the movie … The Village. Same problem, unique solution!

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I think he’s advising discretion at either place. Not a bad call?

I think its a great call, thanks for the clarification.