the lazor zap is one of the best boards i have ever ridden,super loose fast,unpredictable at first and then they come into there own…the fish is a crewd version of the lazor zap that is now the modern NUGGETT…we see so many tyhings rwrong with them…we know people are liking them and having problems with them…sure the extra float is good stops from sinking at low speed…thats about it…the rest is crewd…still better then the modern board in lots of variety surf…a must in the quiver to break the monotony…i think thats how you spell it…
the LAZOR ZAP is crewd to us now…but it got us away from wide nose surfboards ,for rip and tear…and now “boosting”…the nuggett is over 30years of refinement…while everybody went channels concaves, reverse v,twinzers,fishes,thin,narrow,flip tails, we kept on grooven along with the same design the dome …it took 10years to understand a little of design, it took twenty to be able to make it work the way we want it too…a fantastic design…that only Geoff Mccoy knows how to use it properly…weve been through the trial and error to get into control…I tried all the other designs anyway…and have seen them all come and go…a few guys have stayed true to their designs…there own designs…and there aint many…most chop and change with the next thing that comes along like my daughters dinner right now sea ya…
Hi Cheyne,I’ve been into riding new 5’10 pot belly and 6’2 nugget. Lots of hold and easy to generate speed down line. Biggest stoke about number of waves added to my sessions and ease of paddling. Mine are all singles and adding a keel fin soon.
What would I gain/loose by lazor zap and should i stay in the 6’2 range considering narrowing of nose. Funny looking boards that really perform in wider range than anything else ridden. Thanks!
Sorry, not buying it. If you are the real Cheyne Horan, I mean no disrespect, but I watched you when you came to Newport every summer. Cheyne was the best surfer in the world riding the worst board. His failure to switch to modern equipment cost him at least 3 (possibly 4) world titles. While I have definitely seen the pluses of riding the fish in some conditions, the lazor zap is one design that needs to be forgotten (especially with the single fin).
I live Hawaii, We are fortunate to have a veriaty of surf! If you like you can ride a hudge range of boards! It is true that you may surf better on one board than the other but it’s really about the felling you get from the choice of board! It’s in the mind!! It would of been nice to see Chayne surf a thruster or even a twin fin. Back then style and the felling of the dance were still important … No dought the surfing today is impressive but it’s nice when someone comes along and changes it up !!
Hey Cheyne… Because of your influence I bought a nugget. It was a 6’2" single fin shaped for me by Greg Pautch. I tried the McCoy keels and the star fin and I just couldn’t get it to work. I surfed that thing everywhere from crappy SoCal beach break to G-land just thinking that I needed to give it time. Even though it had a McCoy logo on it I kept getting “It’s not a real McCoy” so I shelled out the cash and got a “real McCoy” from Solosurfer in Fl. It is 6’ and also a single fin. I played with that thing all summer and there were moments of genius for sure but most of the time I felt like I was struggling. I am not giving up on it but is it possible that this shape is not for everyone? I have a 5’6" twin keel fish and would never even think of comparing it to the nugget, they are different animals and it doesn’t have to be one or the other.
People call him “Creature” around the OC/LA countyline,but I know him as Mike .He uses thruster fin set-ups for rudders(prefers glass-on aircores),but the shapes are very different.Mike usually rides a 6 foot something by say 20" with a very dropped wide pt. and the tails are somewhere from 18" - 19" wide.
Mike’s a treat to watch surf.He’s very skilled,and can out ride the 20 something crowd.He’s like 50.Herb
Cheyne - interested in what you got to say about the nugget and its bottom shape. What does the term “loaded dome” actually mean? I’m guessing it means more than just convex…
I agree on Cheyne being the best surfer in the world, but that Pink railed board he road was the for runner of what you call the modern surfboard. How could it then be the worst surfboard in the world. Cheyne’s boards did not cost him the world title, but the fact that he did not play the game by other peoples standards. He stayed true to his own convictions. Simon Anderson himself has said without the lazor zap outline there would have been no thruster, so your comments simply do not hold up. Go to Cheyne’s website and look at his competitive record. Look and 1982 and see the number of wins and top 5 finishes he had and tell me that you think there was no fix on world titles. Go back and watch the footage of the second OP pro and tell me that Cheyne did not win that contest instead of Curren (who was sponsored by OP at that time). What wins world titles depends alot on who you are sponsored by and what is in vouge at the time. Not in every case, but in the infancy of pro surfing there was alot of that.
You look at Cheyne’s Pink railed board today and it will still hold up to what some call a fish. I have yet to see a board that still has so much mystery surrounding it as does the Lazor Zap. I am glad Cheyne has created this post on the board that became the modern surfboard, but is constantly left out of the magazines and given it’s proper place in surfings history.
measurements are 5’9"x 19.5 x 3" all conditions ,sorry dont have the nose I test pilot I say how it goes and mccoy makes it and he refines them from how how they go and how I want them to go…for escondido i wanted to hold in from the top and tube ride on beach breaks i want vert and speed to burn…my tow boards to turn in the juice and hold…i leave all that to him…5’2" x 23" works best in 3-5ft…
the star-fin i use in weak or crumble conditions or down the line waves that are too fast for ordinary fins…the gull wing i use to tube ride…hope this helps
thats right when you been surfn along time variety comes into it…the fishes can be fun they have somethings that are working on them for small waves…they are crude though…when you see them in 20 years you will see what was wrong with them and what was right…aloha
Hi Cheyne,I’ve been into riding new 5’10 pot belly and 6’2 nugget. Lots of hold and easy to generate speed down line. Biggest stoke about number of waves added to my sessions and ease of paddling. Mine are all singles and adding a keel fin soon.
What would I gain/loose by lazor zap and should i stay in the 6’2 range considering narrowing of nose. Funny looking boards that really perform in wider range than anything else ridden. Thanks!
Lazor zap is old…the nugget is refined…the lazor is all back foot the nugget allows you on the front foot more…if you want that get that …i like it too but with the front foot you can really get it flying