Hey eveyone. My name is Steve and I’m from San Diego and I’m new to this forum.
I’m looking for a drawing or photos I can show my shaper of the concave rails that 7S Surfboards uses. Its what they call their “Step Deck” but don’t confuse this “step deck” with the classic step deck noserider because it is nothing like that. Instead, it is a subtle concave that runs from nose to tail along the rail line on the deck of the board. The idea is that you still have the volume for paddling on the deck, but because of the hollow/concavity in the deck rail line, you have thinner, less boxy and thus more responsive rails.
Anyway, I’ve done a search online trying to find a drawing of that and don’t see it. Does anyone have some images of that so I can show my shaper?
Any leads will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.
Plans changed so I was able to do it right now. A little hard to get a good pic, hope these help.
Where
I have the wax is basically where the deck and rails separate. They
blend together at about 1’ from nose and 6" from tail points. This is
definately one of my favorite boards.
I have been looking for information (drawings and measurements so that I could build my own) on the super fish XL somewhere around 7 or 8 feet. the pictures here are helpful but I would need more detail to build it. Any help would be greatly apreiciated.
I saw one of these, recently. It didn’t have any concaves in the deck, but a distinct break in the rail line between the deck and rail, itself. Very similar to a concept that Con was using thirty-odd years ago. The difference being that Cons were made by surfers, and the 7s I saw was clearly labeled “Made in Thailand”. Which tells me all I need to know about that brand.
I got a brand new one a few years ago for a good price. The glass job was no worse than any other shop bought board. It rode pretty well just not as good as my home made twin keel ( which was 13'' shorter ). If i'd have gotten a 6'8'', instead of a 7'3'', i may still have it. Also, on a solid 8' day, my mate and i got hit by a rogue set, which broke 10 metres in front of us. My mates surftech snapped in two, and my 7S copped it sweet, with no buckles or dents.
I think a good shaper is aware of other current and past design features....I think too many surfers and shapers copy other designs so blatantly that it's rediculous..where is the creativity and originality ( some things that surfers and surfing often say they are )...sure if there is a design you like, then have it shaped to suit your requirements and specs but to get files and scanning pics for dims and templates, well seriously, thats just a blatant rip off of someone elses design and I couldnt do it and wouldnt want to.....
That particular 7S design is no better or worse, or different than a million other boards I’ve seen. I mean, it looks like it would probably ride well. However, the thing that intrigues me (and its very difficult to see in the photos) is the very slight concave running along the rails on the deck. The concept, which makes total sense to me, is that you have the volume where you want it for paddling (in the middle), but you don’t end up with a big fat ass boxy rail that would be prone to tracking. It seems to me, if done correctly, that this could be an awesome addition to super wide thick boards like fishes and mini simms.
I dont have a CNC to copy this with. I dont see how anyone could shape a board by hand without imparting their own nuances to the shape. The design looks like something I could make into a fun board for me to ride. This is only a BLATANT attempt to have fun surfing on a bourd that I made. I appreciate your opinions but they are not really helpful. Thanks anyway
Well, thats good that its not a “breakthrough design” because that means that someone out there might have some drawings of that concave rail profile. Does anyone know where I can see some?
Are you talking about my opinions here? If so, I was the one that started this thread requesting photos and drawings of this rail, so my “opinions” were based on what 7S says about why this rail works.
Wow,a lot of coments on this board design. Not sure who originally designed it or if they borrowed someone elses ideas, which is what almost every shaper in the world has done, but it’s pretty tough and it rips. With the extra volume in the deck it paddles very similar to my 6’3" Goldenbreed swallow tail, which is a much fuller board, but because of the step rails it digs in and responds much better in turn and doesn’t slide out as much in bigger waves. I have ridden it in waist to 3’ overhead and loved it.