Making a surf key

Thought this might be of interest…maybe others have encountered this same dilemma…

I recently replaced my car, but the keys that came with the new car were quite different to the old one. The old one was recent enought to have an engine immobiliser and a transponder key, but  the key was separate to the remote keyless entry thingy, and it was a waterproof molded block of plastic. I had been stashing this key in my wetsuit for the past 10 years, and never had a problem with the car not starting, with the transponder electronics safely enclosed in their plastic housing.

However, the new car came with keys that looked like this:

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An all in one unit that is probably barely splashproof, let alone waterproof. So I needed to find a surf key that was just like the old car had, but it turns out that there is nothing like what I was after. Yes, I could get a key cut that would open the door, but I wanted one with a transponder chip that could also start the car. The closest thing I could find was this key on eBay.

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So I bought it for $25 and had it cut for another $45 (still much cheaper than what the dealer wanted for the same thing!). Then I programmed the transponder chip so it could start the car (my car manual had steps for how to do this, I know other brands try to force you back to the dealer for them to do this for you for $$$). So now I had a key that could open my doors and start my car, but as it consisted of two clipped together halves, it was far from waterproof.

 

So I made a basic mold out of an old matchbox that I had lined with sticky tape and sealed as best I could. I then cast the key into the block of epoxy resin (Kinetix surfboard laminating epoxy to be precise!). When it had cured, it looked like this:

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As I said before, the key wasn’t waterproof, and it certainly wasn’t resin proof. Over the first hour or so of having the key in the mold, the resin level dropped noticibly as resin seaped into the key, so I had to keep topping up the mold. As for resin getting inside the key, that’s no problem because electronics are often made water/dust/tamper-proof by casting them in epoxy.

I then got out the belt sander and rough cut the block to slightly larger than the key. Yes there are lots of micro air bubbles 'cos I whipped the epoxy too much. But I’ll deal with that later.

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Then I finished grinding it back to the final shape with a hand sanding block, and used a Dremel to buzz out the hole for the key loop in my wetsuit.

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I wasn’t altogether happy with the final finish, mostly due to some air bubbles, so I filled a few little divets with 5-minute epoxy, then sprayed the key with a black vinyl paint (quality 3M Vinyl paint, if Resinhead is reading!), and gloss coated (WTF, who gloss coats a car key?!)

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So there you have it, a non-waterproof transponder key made into a waterproof surf key. And it works perfectly, starting the car every time!

Cheers
Paul

 

 

Nice job!.

That is amazing…top marks for effort…
Cheers
Rich
www.thirdshade.com

Hi Paul,

Whilst thats pretty cool and no doubt gave you a little project to fiddle with between surfs - I have a Ford Territory with the same key, and have been getting it wet for the last three years or so without any issues…the transponder chip does not seem to mind!

 

 

Still Id much rather have the definately waterproof version than the maybe waterproof 'oh cr*p the car wont start' version!! Good effort paulr.

Although couldnt you lock the original key inside and just open the door with a cut key (non electronic?) Just a thought...

Although that does make it a bit easy for someone to nab your car if they see you stash the key!

Either way thats a nice gloss black key. Might go and spray my car keys now...

I use this for my key:

Put it on my back in my wetsuit.

When you return to your car, you can even use the remote control to open the doors! (no need to take it out of the bag)

i have the alarm pad and transponder key in one(08 honda fit).

i separated the two being the trans-chip/key part is waterproof ,but not the alarm pad,and i can lock the door and set the alarm(on and off) with just the key/transponder.

the biggest problem is explaining to a mechanic why and how i did it.

keep in mind........... if you do this is...............it's battery opt.

you'll have to replace the batteries..............

herb

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Still Id much rather have the definately waterproof version than the maybe waterproof 'oh cr*p the car wont start' version!! Good effort paulr.

Although couldnt you lock the original key inside and just open the door with a cut key (non electronic?) Just a thought.

 

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just a cut key willnot(you need the transponder w/ the key to work doors or ignition)................let me repeat that...........willnot open my doors...........if fact it will set my alarm off .

herb

Wow… that’s fancy.  I just use a $3 copy without a transponder on a string around my neck, and leave the real key inside my truck.  I have several copies that I pass out to my buddies so they don’t have to wait for me if they wanna come in early.  

I bought a new car a couple of weeks ago.   I noticed that the fob was integrated into the key when I took the test drive.  It didn’t look waterproof to me, and I told the sales person that it was a potential deal killer.  I asked if a valet key was provided  standard and they said it was not.  So, as part of the negotiation, they agreed to make me a regualr fobless key for free.  It would have cost $150 for them to make one for me otherwise.

hey swied, i got that same song and dance from Dodge on my turbodiesel truck....then went to Home Depot and they made me 2 keys off the Fob key for $10.

nice to hear from you kendall,

oh ya,,,,,,,,,, no fob keys for my  model car yet........at least the last time i checked.

the alarm is also the main computer .....intergrated.

the alarm company that services the alarm is called rockledge.

if you try and gimmy the ignition it will collapse the system,and a honda tech has to re-boot the computer so it will work again.

my fit 08 is the last of the completely built and parts 100% NIPPON.

herb

 

Cool Idea, glad it worked for you!

Caution to some other comments…make sure to read your owners manual before putting a copied door key in some newer cars and trucks…even in the door lock it will lock down your computer and repeated attempts could be very expensive. As far Home Depot making car keys…they will do that for you and …oh yeah… anyone else who gets their grimey little fingers on your key!

I use a Hitch Safe on my truck… pretty good option if you have a class-III hitch already. Works like a champ!

Woody

Thanks for the feedback!. Obviously everyone has their own solution for dealing with car keys whilst in the surf, and whilst my solution isn’t for everybody, it’s what works best for me.

@damo666, you’re braver than I am! I wasn’t going to risk taking the transponder key in the water as-is, besides I’d just finished laminating a board so I had left over resin, so it was begging to be done!

It’s interesting to read comments about a cut key potentially disabling the vehicle. The locksmith who cut mine told me “never put it in the ignition, because the car will think it is being stolen and shut down the whole system”. I tried to tell him “Don’t worry, I know how to program the key so that it starts my car”, but he wouldn’t listen (cursing cheap eBay replacement keys!) and still told me about 3 times not to do it! I figure he must have had more than one customer come back and complain about the key he’d just cut. To my mind, that is a serious design flaw - I mean, is it really that easy to disable someone’s car?! I understand the immobiliser not allowing the car to start without a registered transponder, but to shut down the car’s computer system and require the dealer to reset it, that’s just crazy!

Herb:  The car that I just bought was '12 Fit.  The keys and fob are now integrated together.  I hate fobs anyway.  I use the fobless key that the Honda service dept made for me and lock/unlock my door manually – even though I do tend to lock myself out of the car from time-to-time. :slight_smile:

Ha, there’s something to be said for driving a 20yo piece of crap Subaru. I just stick my key in my shoe, chuck it in the back of the car and don’t even lock the door. Been doing a version of this since I started surfing in the late 80s and so far it’s worked. 

Of course, now I’ve said this, some fucker’s going to come along and steal my car next time I hit the waves…

i've been told......the 08's are different than any of the other fits,due to it's computer .

it took me awhile but,i got the whole key "chet" down.

i had an 06 chevy truck before the fit and the key and trans were already intergrated like your 2012 fit.

herb

I didn’t know what a Honda Fit was, so I googled it…I’m surprised you can “fit” anything in there, let alone a surfboard…haha!

i can get a 9 footer in easily with 2 or 3 more stacked on top of that..............and that's in the car locked up!

plus carry a passenger behind me in the back seat(actually 2 passengers).

all at 35-45 mpg.

and it's anything but a dog.

herb