does anyone have ideas on what tou use for an adhesive in surfwax
I have searched the archives extensivly and cannot find a formula for
wax that doesn’t involve industrial chemicals.
I trie making a batch w/out adhesive and got really good skate wax
but it isn’t sticky
any help would be appreciated
thanks
bees wax
ear wax & boogers. And you can make your own leashes from woven hemp too!
ear wax & boogers. And you can make your own leashes from woven hemp too!
funny stuff
dont forget the fumunda cheese
Okay, here goes man. Hope this helps!
Basic Surf Wax Mixture:
(Melt together at about 100F) 60-70% Paraffin Wax, 15-20% Microcrystalline Wax, 5-10% Petroleum Jelly, 5-10% Adhesive (Vistenex) Small amounts of Scent and dye.
The amount of petroleum jelly and wax needs to be adjusted for the water temperature in your region. If the Temp is warm in your region use more wax and less petroleum. If the water is cold use more petroleum and less wax. The Microcrystalline wax and Vistenex give it the “stickiness”.
Watch out it can get real messy.
I shoud also say that neither Surfing Waves nor I can be held responsible for anything that happens as a result of your trying this out!!!
Why purchase your surf board wax when you can easily make your own at home?
When you think of riding the waves on a surfboard, you might think that a board is all you need. Basically, that is correct, but you’re also going to need some assistance to help keep your feet planted on top of the board. It will also help you have more fun because it will provide an area of traction on the board for when you’re lying on your stomach. So, even when you’re lying on your stomach, paddling out to the ocean, it will help you stay on the surfboard better.
You can purchase many types of surfboard wax, but you can easily just make your own instead! The materials are easy to find; they’re not expensive, and the entire process doesn’t take that long either.
The first step to make your own surfboard wax is to purchase some paraffin pellets. You will want to use pellets instead of blocks of paraffin because they melt down quicker. You can usually find these at your local pharmacy. You will also need to purchase some calcium carbonate and some petroleum jelly. If you choose, you can also purchase a container of scent and some coloring to make your surfboard wax colored, and to make it smell good too. But, it’s not necessary; the coloring and the scent won’t help the wax work any better.
The second step is to round up an old, large cooking pot. When you make your own surfboard wax, you will want to make a large batch at a time so you have plenty of wax on hand. Now, seventy per cent of the formula will be the paraffin pellets, while the other thirty per cent will consist mainly of the calcium carbonate. The petroleum jelly will be added too, to help soften the wax and calcium carbonate. Otherwise, without the jelly, the surfboard wax would be rock hard!
The third step is to place the old, large cooking pot on your stovetop. Pour in a couple pounds of the paraffin pellets. Turn the heat on an extremely low setting. A word of caution: never heat paraffin on high heat because it can start a fire! Pour in a half-pound of the calcium carbonate into the old pot, and use an old, long spoon to begin to stir the mixture. You must continue to stir the mixture constantly so that it doesn’t scorch or burn. Stirring also helps the mixture to melt faster and more evenly.
After the mixture has started to melt down a little, the next step is to add enough of the petroleum jelly so the mixture is now sticky, but rather smooth. Keep stirring the mixture constantly with the old, long spoon. When the paraffin, the calcium carbonate, and the petroleum jelly have all melted down completely, you can move on to the next step.
The fifth step in this process is to add in the coloring and the scent, if you choose to. Again, these two ingredients won’t make your surfboard wax either better or worse. It will only make it more attractive looking and smelling. If you surfed the waves some years ago, you might recall purchasing the surfboard wax that was on the market then. It was usually a purple - colored, fruity - smelling wax that looked and smelled like grape soda.
The sixth step is to shut off the heat, and remove the old, large cooking pot from your stovetop. You will either need some metal molds, or, if you don’t have any of those, you can substitute an old muffin pan, or even a metal ice cube tray. Space them out on a counter top with several layers of old newspaper spread out underneath. Then, use a pair of heavy oven mitts to lift and hold the cooking pot while you carefully pour the hot, melted wax into each mold or muffin tin. A word of caution: Pour the hot wax slowly so it doesn’t spatter onto your skin. Use a metal spoon to scrape the rest of the mixture from the pan.
Finally, let the mixture set undisturbed. Once it cools and hardens, you can remove the blocks of surfboard wax from the molds, pan, or tray. Store them in a cool, dry place away from sunlight.
Grab your surfboard and a block or two of your own surfboard wax, and you are ready to ride the waves!
why bother. try linseed oil it will make it sticky
Found this back awhile on Sways. Just made some but have not yet tried it. Feels like it might work when you rub it with your finger:
For Sticky Cool Water Surf Wax :
The mixture now is 3 parts Beeswax, 1 part coconut oil and 1 part tree resin (by volume)
For Sticky Warm Water Surf Wax :
You need only two ingredients, the Beeswax and the Coconut oil. That’s it (talk about simple). With this recipe you don’t have to worry about the scent as it will smell really nice already.
All you do is mix 2250g of beeswax with 750ml of coconut oil. First melt the wax, then warm the oil and stir into the wax. Stir well, stir some more and then stir(get the idea!). Pour into Paper cups and let it set.
There is a temptation to use other vegetable oils. Don’t bother. Coconut is the one.
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Remember melt wax add resin mix until the resin melts then add the coconut oil. Melting the resin/rosin took quite a bit of stirring off the bottom as it wanted to get kind of gummy and sticky in there.
I used violin rosin for the resin. A bit pricey but about $3-4 got me enough to make about as much wax as 2 bars of SexWax.
And basecoat?
Is there a formula for basecoat? Or is it just Hot-water wax?
that’s all i have…
I’ve always used warm water wax for base coats. One time after base coat wax was sold out, surf shop bro told me to just use warm water wax, and thats all ive used since, works really well too
I use the beeswax based warm water wax for base and then top it with the cold. I think the cold is good around 10 to 20+ celsius. Under 10 it’s pretty hard already, and around 5 starts feeling slippery. It’s no problem with booties, but my gloves tend to slip when getting up. We are going to experiment with different mixtures for these cold waters soon, I’ll post the results.
In general making wax is easy, smells nice and good for the budget. There are at least couple of threads with more detail, search with beeswax.
i have actually used an unrolled bees wax candle for a deck pad once, it worcked really well but was really uncomfortable and fell off
what is vistenex ?
thanks
Okaj I did a bit of research.
Melting point:
beeswax: 62 to 64 °C (144 to 147 °F)
Coco oil: 24 °C (76 °F)
Palm oil: 37 to 42 °C (100 to 108 °F)
Peanut oil: 3 °C (37 °F)
So Now I’ve been thinking :P.
If Coco oil makes the wax going sticky above 20°C then replacing it with Palm oil (37°C) will make a good basecoat? Not with Palm kernel oil because that melts at 24°C.
Then for the cold water wax, we can use a bit of Peanut oil (combined with coco oil) to make it sticky. Offcourse this wil need some experimenting.
What a pitty I didn’t found a oil that melts around 12°C because that would make good cool water wax.
Hopefully small amounts of peanut oil will do the trick.
Otherwise we can add petroleum jelly (known as vaseline in Europe), it’s worth trying.
Oil melting points: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/oil-melting-points-d_1088.html
And does anyone has an idea if you van make your own wax molds in epoxy-fibreglass?
I assume you can?
I found beeswax in Belgium 10kg for only 7.30 euros!
The oils are not that cheap but this makes everything good.
i think an old muffin tin for amold would be good you could stamp the bottom with a logo
Why? unless you going to make it out of free stuff like monkey puss and dog vomit…why?
Your still buying parafin wax…which is wax, then adding other junk too it. Why waste your time. Your going to spend more in materials and time than it worth.
If you have too much free time on your hands, come by my place. I got a stack of boards that need sanding…you can do them by hand, it will build character, and a strong grip. Plus it will take your mind off of making wax.
And does anyone has an idea if you van make your own wax molds in epoxy-fibreglass?
I assume you can?
I found beeswax in Belgium 10kg for only 7.30 euros!
The oils are not that cheap but this makes everything good.
Sillicone muffin molds are perfect for that usage.
For the oil, try to find some Vegetaline, it’s very cheap and over here in France you’ll find it in any supermarket. Vegetaline is hydrogenated coconut oil. It comes in a semi solid butter like state, which means it has a higher melting point than regular oil. Some people use it as an oil to fry “french” fries.
Yes I found that already ;).
but I need coldwaterwax too, so I’m thinking of using a bit of peanut oil or olive oil.
In France I always use the cool wax, even in the summer. The water is so cold over there :P. The temp is almost the same as here in the northsea. Here the water is in autumn and winter warmer than the air.
So for France I will have to find a formula too. The coco oil won’t do the trick on it’s own.
I saw some treads wich were like: just pay a buck for some wax. In Belgium it is 2 euro’s (=3 dollar’s) and the surfshops around here have only a few pieces in stock in the winter all cold-water and we need cold water :). They sell more clothes or skis than surfwax and surfboards.
And I like to experiment with this. And because I’m only using terra wax or stickybumps of I can find terra wax, I have to do a whole quest each time. I never use sex-wax it just doesn’t work for me, don’t ask me why. I’m looking forward to have a 10kg stock of wax :P. But that after my exams.
Or why not sand you board to 36 grit, and leave it like that? no need for wax…just wetsuits?