I just came across this picture at a New Zealand kneelo site. Well, just simply enjoy. Any questions? http://www.ksnz.org.nz/images/george/george_0878_3.jpg
I just came across this picture at a New Zealand kneelo site. Well, just > simply enjoy. Any questions?>>> http://www.ksnz.org.nz/images/george/george_0878_3.jpg George Greenough on an old rubber and canvas raft, likely a Converse Hodgeman (circa 1968), 15 years before the advent of my first modern nylon surfmat. If he was carving turns at speeds like that on crude, 7-8 pound equipment almost 35 years ago, just imagine how what the 26 ounce custom mats he`s using today are capable of! Dale
“If he was carving turns at speeds like that on crude, 7-8 pound equipment almost 35 years ago, just imagine how what the 26 ounce custom mats he`s using today are capable of!” The Innermost Limits of Pure Fun??? I getting one!
I just came across this picture at a New Zealand kneelo site. Well, just > simply enjoy. Any questions?>>> http://www.ksnz.org.nz/images/george/george_0878_3.jpg This old photo lays to rest the common question about whether or not a mat surfer needs to drag their legs/fins to complete a long, hard, carving turn.
This old photo lays to rest the common question about whether or not a mat > surfer needs to drag their legs/fins to complete a long, hard, carving > turn. The footage and pic’s I’ve seen of George get me so stoked. The possibilities are endless on a mat!
I just came across this picture at a New Zealand kneelo site. Well, just > simply enjoy. Any questions?>>> http://www.ksnz.org.nz/images/george/george_0878_3.jpg adult intelligence suspects two things: 1. pool toys dont turn 2. digital image manipulation nice try whoever you are.
- pool toys dont turn Don’t need to turn - already been back there
adult intelligence suspects two things: 1. pool toys dont turn 2. digital > image manipulation>>> nice try whoever you are. U.F.O’s, Bigfoot sightings, surfmats… they’re all a bunch of hogwash until you experience it for yourself and you’re left shaking in your boots (fins) with your world permanently altered. Some things just can’t be explained and skeptics are quick to jump all over them. Despite reports from the “experts”, I’m still a believer!
U.F.O’s, Bigfoot sightings, surfmats… they’re all a bunch of hogwash > until you experience it for yourself and you’re left shaking in your boots > (fins) with your world permanently altered. Some things just can’t be > explained and skeptics are quick to jump all over them. Despite reports > from the “experts”, I’m still a believer! Believe it or not - with my spilt fins and mat headed out to a point break last week that was working. In Maine we do get surf but advice would lead to not quitting your day job to surf all the time, you would be hungry and surfless for quite a while. This point I have ridden for a long time and I had not seen it work like this for 2 years ( I check it all the time ) with a 15 foot rise and fall of the tide daily this is a “tide break” just the right amount of water with swell direction and BAM - an East Coast version of throwing and sucking, reforming , throwing and sucking again - repeat twice more. So the mat . the fins . the line up “hard cores” who have dusted off their “big wave” boards stink eyeing the shit outa me ( funny they never do that when I am ridding something seen in a magazine article ). The stage is set for me to be an eye popping experience on speed. Most rides up here are short 30 sec duration max , dropping in behind the peak , moving up high then screammng down across the flats onto the next section and then the nxt section. What I experenced was no matter how critical the wave looked I would zen the mat out, let the mat ( an incredible concept still ) pick its own line and make the section. These ride took me 15 mins to swim back out , the hard cores were only making the first section. Every wave was like this - a new experience. Dale has always said to wait until I could get the mat on some size and length - grasshopper we flew together effortless! Now I would coyote love both arms to have opportunity to ride like this once a week - yu-all on the west coast have something happening in your own back yards what , daily? To experience trides like this - borrow one - ride one ( a begining humbling experience) SEE FOR YOURSELF- and if you don’t like I’ll buy your mat from you. regards peter
Believe it or not - with my spilt fins and mat headed out to a point break > last week that was working. In Maine we do get surf but advice would lead > to not quitting your day job to surf all the time, you would be hungry and > surfless for quite a while. This point I have ridden for a long time and I > had not seen it work like this for 2 years ( I check it all the time ) > with a 15 foot rise and fall of the tide daily this is a “tide > break” just the right amount of water with swell direction and BAM - > an East Coast version of throwing and sucking, reforming , throwing and > sucking again - repeat twice more. So the mat . the fins . the line up > “hard cores” who have dusted off their “big wave” > boards stink eyeing the shit outa me ( funny they never do that when I am > ridding something seen in a magazine article ). The stage is set for me to > be an eye popping experience on speed. Most rides up here are short 30 sec > duration max , dropping in behind the peak , moving up high then screammng > down across the flats onto the next section and then the nxt section. What > I experenced was no matter how critical the wave looked I would zen the > mat out, let the mat ( an incredible concept still ) pick its own line and > make the section. These ride took me 15 mins to swim back out , the hard > cores were only making the first section. Every wave was like this - a new > experience. Dale has always said to wait until I could get the mat on some > size and length - grasshopper we flew together effortless! Now I would > coyote love both arms to have opportunity to ride like this once a week - > yu-all on the west coast have something happening in your own back yards > what , daily? To experience trides like this - borrow one - ride one ( a > begining humbling experience) SEE FOR YOURSELF- and if you don’t like I’ll > buy your mat from you.>>> regards peter yo peter Can you answer? whats this mat? prone rider/yes no? do you know howzit stack up against sponging - bodysurfing - paipos??? is this that George Grenoough thing? seriously listening for your answers. mucho gracious!!!
yo peter>>> Can you answer? whats this mat? prone rider/yes no? do you know howzit > stack up against sponging - bodysurfing - paipos??? is this that George > Grenoough thing?>>> seriously listening for your answers. mucho gracious!!! This is THE only mat to ride - it is what I ride - along with many others some famous - most obscure. Talk to Dale Solomonson and check out all his post’s on the site. Now my answer - I have ridden paipo’s, body boards, kneeboards + body surfing{i will keep this discussion closer to sea level ). I ride one of Dale’s mats and have been ridding steadily for the past 11 mos… What I have learned is to forget about ridding anything else that requires you to ride prone. This is an interesting object to acclimate to. When I first tried to paddle out on it I could not for the life of me figure how I would ever catch a wave. The first go outs were simply “school time” learning inflation ( one of the mats formidable assets ) wave catching, and ridding. What I did/had to was to re-learn and forget any thing about a paipo or a body board. On a paipo/BB I alsways find my self pushing up off the nose of the board and most of the weight is on the back of the board. Matting for me is more like body surfing on “air” unlike body surfing you get into the wave earlier and ride much further - most of all you go much faster. Whith the emphasis on speed - One day in the beginning surfing with a few bud’s I took off on a wave a little late. Dropped in rolled left, the speed diminished and thought " is thing any faster at all ?" I WAS SOOOOOOOOOO FAR DOWN THE LINE , I’m still chuckling now over that ride. Give Dale a call - he’ll take time out of his day to answer your question’s . If I can answer any more post it here or write to me peter
Hi, Peter Could you run down the split fins you’ve tried out and report on their plusses and minusses. Would greatly appreciate knowing what you like the best. Thanks!
Hi, Peter>>> Could you run down the split fins you’ve tried out and report on their > plusses and minusses. Would greatly appreciate knowing what you like the > best.>>> Thanks! Try this site http://www.scubadiving.com/gear/2001gear/2001fins.shtml good site for fin info I was using this fin http://www.scubapro.com/consumer/products/masks_fins_snorkels/fins/twinjetadjustable/twinjetadjustable.html a scuba pro twin jet adustable - love this fin - the first pair were an eye opener - what I found over time was the flexability of the fin compared to the fin I am now using which is http://www.atomicaquatics.com/products/fins/splitfin2.html atomic splitfin — this fin I like very much - a much stiffer fin than the scuba pro and it floats! Which ever you purchase make sure you get a good fit. Th reason I like the atomic also is the fit. In maine the water temp ranges from 37 degrees ( winter) to upper 60’s in the late summer - thus the reason for adjustable ( i would have to have 3 pairs otherwise) . I say this because having bodysurfed both fins and have used dive fins for years surfing the buckles propose no problem for me what so ever. You can also drill through the material ( fin foot pocket bottom) and attach a leash if you like. http://www.apollosportsusa.com/biofin.html check out this underwater vid I know this is a general answer ---- give me a specific question and I 'll hook you up with a specific response in DETAIL. GOOLUCK2YA PETER
Interesting stuff. What determines whether you might want a stiffer split fin or a more flexy one? I’m a little weak in the leg sometimes and sometimes tend to cramp. Also: are you buying yours locally over over the 'net and if the 'net, where? Thanks again!>>> Try this site http://www.scubadiving.com/gear/2001gear/2001fins.shtml good > site for fin info>>> I was using this fin > http://www.scubapro.com/consumer/products/masks_fins_snorkels/fins/twinjetadjustable/twinjetadjustable.html > a scuba pro twin jet adustable - love this fin - the first pair were an > eye opener - what I found over time was the flexability of the fin > compared to the fin I am now using which is > http://www.atomicaquatics.com/products/fins/splitfin2.html atomic splitfin > — this fin I like very much - a much stiffer fin than the scuba pro and > it floats! Which ever you purchase make sure you get a good fit. Th reason > I like the atomic also is the fit. In maine the water temp ranges from 37 > degrees ( winter) to upper 60’s in the late summer - thus the reason for > adjustable ( i would have to have 3 pairs otherwise) . I say this because > having bodysurfed both fins and have used dive fins for years surfing the > buckles propose no problem for me what so ever. You can also drill through > the material ( fin foot pocket bottom) and attach a leash if you like.>>> http://www.apollosportsusa.com/biofin.html check out this underwater vid>>> I know this is a general answer ---- give me a specific question and I 'll > hook you up with a specific response in DETAIL.>>> GOOLUCK2YA PETER
are you buying yours locally over over the 'net and if the 'net, where? …Try: www.leisurepro.com… Paul
yo Peter- 11 months??? how did it take before you started getting any GOOD rides??? some of us cant wait that long for a half-decent wave. how many months was the kook time for you personally? thanks in advance
yo Peter- 11 months??? how did it take before you started getting any > GOOD rides??? some of us cant wait that long for a half-decent wave. how > many months was the kook time for you personally? thanks in advance It depends on the waves and your head…If you’ve got good waves (reef or point) with a little push (regardless of size)three or four sessions will get you to the point where you’ve learned that you DON’T have to turn to go fast. One of the things about Dale’s mat is the grippy top…you can’t slide around to find the sweet spot so there is more trial and error than if it was slippery. Once you’ve got it though, the top is a really good thing… The biggest part is your head. You’ve got to empty it of preconceptions and go out and have fun. The first time I tried it, I was bogging and flogging and cursing all that was Dale. My daughter has very little surf experience yet she grabbed the bag and was flying all over the place the first time she tried it! My epiphany was on my third session. And it happened because I just let go and had fun. I haven’t given up stand-up surfing but now I can see why some of the bagmen do… Newbs
It depends on the waves and your head…If you’ve got good waves (reef or > point) with a little push (regardless of size)three or four sessions will > get you to the point where you’ve learned that you DON’T have to turn to > go fast. One of the things about Dale’s mat is the grippy top…you can’t > slide around to find the sweet spot so there is more trial and error than > if it was slippery. Once you’ve got it though, the top is a really good > thing…>>> The biggest part is your head. You’ve got to empty it of preconceptions > and go out and have fun. The first time I tried it, I was bogging and > flogging and cursing all that was Dale. My daughter has very little surf > experience yet she grabbed the bag and was flying all over the place the > first time she tried it! My epiphany was on my third session. And it > happened because I just let go and had fun. I haven’t given up stand-up > surfing but now I can see why some of the bagmen do…>>> Newbs My “kook” time = Was catching waves the first go out - It did not take 11 months for me to get good rides. I also let some kids “fool” around with it one day last summer and could not believe how easily they caught waves and went left and right. These “kids” had never surfed before, just a small 2-3 foot day. What “I” learned and thought after seeing this compounded the notion to forget anything about other surfcraft. The ride I posted previous that pertains to how fast I was going and “how far down the line I was” was on my 3rd or 4th go out. Portland bouy was going off 12 feet ever 11 secs - epic for East coast conditions had a great time bagged all day.