Methods to maintain volume while keeping rails thin(ner)

There are a lot of methods to maintain volume in a surfboard while keeping the rails thin. What do you like? What don’t you like? What works better for performance boards vs. grovelers vs. longboards? Would love to hear some thoughts.

I tend to dome the deck a lot, keeping the volume in the center of the board with a smooth arc to the rail. This tends to work for the more performance surfboards. This tends to work but takes a lot of time to get the dome smooth and flow with the foil of the board. This was especially the case when using blanks that didn’t already have a dome to the deck (sled cut eps for example). I usually add the dome as part of cutting the rails bands. Just a lot broader bands along the deck.

I have tried less dome in the deck with a more angled attack to the rail on some fish surfboards. It flowed well into the beak nose and out to the thinned tail. This required a lot less rail bands and was relatively quick. It took a little time to make sure the “top edge” of the angled band was even for both sides but allowed for thinned out rails while maintaining a lot of volume in the board.

I believe the stretch “skate deck” boards keep a flat deck with an obvious angle to the rail. This is similar to what I do with my fish boards but much more pronounced and the volume goes all the way out to the start of the angled rail. I haven’t tried this on a board (haven’t seen one in person and haven’t surfed one) but people seem to like the feel of the concave deck.

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I love nose bump, I use it on twin fins and quad and also some single fin.
Excuse me if I load a lot of pictures but my english is not good and I can’t explain correct.







Love the nose bump and the angled rail line! Keeps the volume through the front of the board. On a recent canvas fish there was a ton of volume through the front with the nose bump and a really thinned out tail with rather squared off rails.

Huck I totally forgot about the step deck…Not found often in the wild. It’s an elusive beast but certainly keeps the volume up and the rails down.

Beautiful boards. How are you doing the drop shadow in the middle of the first board, airbrush?

Yes, masking and airbrush.

we used to call that a beak nose

Thank you Huck,
I like learn right technical words like this.
Technical language is very different of slang language…
I learn on swaylocks site many " way of saying"

http://www.swaylocks.com/forums/beak-noses

huck, i love the style you use with the deck concave, reminiscent of a skateboard. i’ve always wondered why this wasn’t done more often on surfboards. one of the posters above mentioned a domed-out deck, but IMO that seems like it would suck out performance and grip on the board. toe/heel movement would have to be more exaggerated to get the board to transfer to rail b/c the deck surface is lower than center. w/ concave like you have, huck, you get quicker feedback from toe/heel movement and the benefit of the “cupping” of the concave which should mean traction/less slipping.

these are all just theories of mine based on skateboarding and snowboarding. i’m a hobbyist at best who came into surfing late in life, but it’s fun to think about. burton added the “gas pedal” to their snowboard bindings some years ago. it’s just a raised lip of the binding, propping up the toes to make edge-to-edge changes that much quicker. i have a firewire (gasp) w/ a concave deck (very mild), but i love the way it feels compared to my more normal boards. could be placebo, could be real.

i don’t know why deck concave seems to be generally ignored as a performance booster in board design. maybe it’s just way to intricate to build in on a production scale? is there a benefit to a domed deck that i’m not understanding?

(p.s., those beaked boards are GORGEOUS!!!)

…hello, in the vein that Huck posted:


DROOL!!! that looks so nice