Mid Point

What is the difference of making the mid point of the board, say 4" forward or 4" back? Thanks, Michael

I’ve always placed my mid point exactly in the middle, and have never regretted it! > What is the difference of making the mid point of the board, say 4" > forward or 4" back? Thanks, Michael

It depends on how you want to turn your board. If you ride more toward the tail then the midpoint should be back from center. If you ride nore toward the nose, and use a lot of rail in your turns, then the midpoint being forward would be beneficial. Naturally this does not apply to all the different board types out there and can be used only as a very rough guideline. But llok at the difference between a moder high performance shortboard and a classic fish design. The shortboard’s wide point is back from center making better use of the fins and the snappy, skate like effect of the hard, down rails in the rear third of the board. Now take a fish and you see that the midpoint is usually 4 to 6 inches from the actual center of the board. You are using more rail and are riding more toward the center and away from the tail with this setup. But these are the just two diffrent samples of board types. It really is a matter of your riding style, coupled with wave type, and the board that you want to shape that will determine your center point.

Now to complicate the question even further. What is the relationship between the wide point of the outline, the placement of the apex of the curve of the rocker and why not throw in the foil while we’re at it. Can someone give us some general guidelines here? TS>>> It depends on how you want to turn your board. If you ride more toward the > tail then the midpoint should be back from center. If you ride nore toward > the nose, and use a lot of rail in your turns, then the midpoint being > forward would be beneficial. Naturally this does not apply to all the > different board types out there and can be used only as a very rough > guideline. But llok at the difference between a moder high performance > shortboard and a classic fish design. The shortboard’s wide point is back > from center making better use of the fins and the snappy, skate like > effect of the hard, down rails in the rear third of the board. Now take a > fish and you see that the midpoint is usually 4 to 6 inches from the > actual center of the board. You are using more rail and are riding more > toward the center and away from the tail with this setup.>>> But these are the just two diffrent samples of board types. It really is a > matter of your riding style, coupled with wave type, and the board that > you want to shape that will determine your center point.

It depends on how you want to turn your board. If you ride more toward the > tail then the midpoint should be back from center. If you ride nore toward > the nose, and use a lot of rail in your turns, then the midpoint being > forward would be beneficial. Naturally this does not apply to all the > different board types out there and can be used only as a very rough > guideline. But llok at the difference between a moder high performance > shortboard and a classic fish design. The shortboard’s wide point is back > from center making better use of the fins and the snappy, skate like > effect of the hard, down rails in the rear third of the board. Now take a > fish and you see that the midpoint is usually 4 to 6 inches from the > actual center of the board. You are using more rail and are riding more > toward the center and away from the tail with this setup.>>> But these are the just two diffrent samples of board types. It really is a > matter of your riding style, coupled with wave type, and the board that > you want to shape that will determine your center point. And if you believe everthing that you read!

Tom - The nature of your question (and the fact that you even addressed the issues) leads me to believe that you know more about design than you let on.

John: Yeah, but knowing that such a relationship exists and making it happen are two different things! I would like for someone who has shaped thousands and perhaps ridden a number of those craft comment on this in general terms, I’m not looking for an essay just observations. TS>>> Tom - The nature of your question (and the fact that you even addressed > the issues) leads me to believe that you know more about design than you > let on.