Mini sim keel location, does this sound about right?

Hi, I’m about to glass board #1 and swaylocks has been a massive help in getting this far. I’ve checked out a lot of info regarding fin positioning for this sort of shape and it seems right down on the tail and by the rail is what goes. 2 inches up off the tail and 1.5 in off the rail looks right to my eye too, and I’m thinking of giving them about 0.5 inch toe-in but with 0 cant.

My board is 4’11" x 23" (at centre) x 2.75". Nose is 20.5" a foot down and tail is 21.5" a foot up and 17 across the tip of the tail (yep, I know it’s fat). Rails are high and bladey in the nose to 60/40 ish in middle and down in the last foot (I’m going to experiment with hard edges with resin). The bottom is quite a pronounced hull in front, to flat out the back.

The keels are 10" base and 5.25 tall with about an inch of rake and single foil.

Does all this seem about right, any suggested changes/insight/advice/anything regarding either fin shape, but more particularly positioning?

Photos below, thanks for everything!

 

…and about 3.5 inches nose rocker, 1 inch in the tail.

1/2" toe sounds like to much,try 0" to 1/4" toe and 0 to 8 degrees cant depending on how well you want it to turn vs drive down the line.If it were mine I would place the trailing edge of the fin 4 3/4"  from the tail and 1 1/4" from the rail.Toe in 1/8" and 4 degrees cant.This will also allow you to Quad fin it later palcing the trailing edge of the front fins at 10 3/8" and giving them the same distance from rail,toe and cant as the rear fins.Maybe some one with more knowledge will chime in though,this is just what works for me on my boards.

Thanks jesus, that’s given me something to think about. Do keel fins generally have less toe in than more standard fins because of the length of the keel? I’ve never had a board with keels before and it seems a bit different. I think I misused the term rake; I meant the top trailing edge of the fin overhangs by about an inch.

 

Cheers,

rich

Hmmm, I think I’ve been measuring toe in the wrong way. Treating the 10 inch long keel as the radius of a circle, 4 degrees would make the leading edge of the keel 0.7 inches closer to the stringer than the trailing edge.

But it seems that when you measure the toe in in inches you assume a 4.5 inch base? A little confused about this because some of the angles I’ve read would give much more toe, in inches, than the inch measurements going around.

put them on the bottom toward the back.

be prepared to move them,

the first time you will put them in the wrong place.

more people will tell you should put them

if you put them on wrong.

write down all the where to put them

estimates , gather at least a hundred

opinions. then compile these figures

and the one estimate most popular

do that and then ride the board 100 hours

of accumulated water time before changing 

the fins back to the wrong place.

 

…ambrose…

Your right surfhack,I measure my toe across a 4.5" span or shapers dots.

Ah, cool, so a half inch toe in 0n 10 inch keels would be about a quarter at 4.5 up. Thanks again for your help Jesus. Just laminated the bottom!