Modern fish options

I really liked my friends Lost round nose fish I rode in costa rica.I’m 35 ,6’ ,165lbs .It was 6’1" x20 1/8 x 3/8.Is this the right size for me? Is there anyone else that shapes these besides Lost cuz there’s a long wait? One other quiestion! Because there is not alot of flex in a fish, a heavy glass job would not affect the performance I take it! Any advice on what dimentions and glassing I should order? I would like it to last a long time and I’m also going to be surfing it with a 5 Millimeter wetsuit now that I’m home.

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The dimensions sound good for your weight…although 3/8" is a little thin…lol!! I know (2-3/8"…) maybe go up tp 2-3/4" for a little float with the 5mil. That said…I am sure there are tons of local shapers(where are you??) that can make you a decent modern(pulled in tail…more rocker…) fish. Use a local shaper to you…he will know your conditions and you can be close by to check the progress. Have it glassed heavy if you want it to last …I would say 6+6oz on deck and a 6oz bottom.Have fun…

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This is something I wrote recently in response to someone asking about wide-nosed shortboards and hybrid fishes (specifically the …lost RNF). These boards are meant to ride SHORT.

"Usually the wider noses are used to shorten the board- puts a bit more width and float under your chest, so the board can be shortened a bit yet still paddle well and catch smaller, weaker waves and fit better in the tight pockets of said smaller surf.

The …lost Round Nose Fish is a good example of this. By no means should anyone ever buy one of these (or similar boards) longer than they are tall, and many say go 2-4" (and even 6" !) shorter than you are tall unless you are looking to cruise around on a crutch and never be able to get both feet on the “sweet spots” simultaneously.

The downside is that a lot of people get these boards too long… this leads to riding them more like a funboard, or if they try to rip up smaller, flatter-faced surf, the width of the nose prevents tight-radius turns and catches a lot.

In a nutshell, as you widen the nose you can drop length (and vicey-versey) if you are concerned about preserving performance.

If you are more interested in ease of paddling and catching waves than tearing it up and get one of these boards too long, you wind up with something more like a mini funboard or funboard."


This is my regular every-day rider (it is 5’8" x 19" x 2.25" ; I’m 6’0" and 180ish); most would say it is too short and thin for me, but my preference is performance; I don’t mind “swimming” my board if it is going to pay off when actually up and surfing. This board freakin rips, and any time I have tried to bump it up the board has lost sensitivty and maneuverability.

http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/501/2930MC_deck.JPG

http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/501/2930MC_side.JPG

what i see in hackeysackey’s pics looks like a fun surfboard that i’d enjoy riding. however, it’s only 5’-8" because you sawed off the nose. looks like it would be 6-0 or 6-1 with a pointed nose. i’m about your size and ride a 6-0 “fish” more of a rocket fish in smaller surf up to a foot or so overhead and love it, much wider than yours at 21", with a 6 channel bottom and pulled in nose. goes anywhere i wanna put it. taken it out in bigger surf and works well, just weird at times, so it’s back to the 6-4 to 7-0 for that.

I can vouch for the performance capability of that board. I’ve never ridden it but I’ve surfed a bunch of sessions with him and he shreds on it.

what does sawing off the nose do?

Josh- you are going to make me blush! Thanks for the props though!

The nose is not “sawed off” per se, but was intended to look that way by the shaper. Either squaring or blunting the nose on this board increases the surface area and volume under the chest (paddling) and front foot (up and surfing) while keeping the length and swing-weight of the board down. It is a subtle adjustment, but small differences can have big effects; when surfing the tight pockets of small surf, less nose = less to catch when turning off the top or cutting back. 2) The other intent is to make more a “squash nose-tail” effect for riding the board backwards in 180 hooks, 360’s, and spinny airs.

chopping down the nose allows yopu to keep pretty much the same outline of a longer board, keep a wider outline, and get rid of some of the weight in the nose, which prob would of never touched the water anyway. I believe Timebomb calls it a “blunt nose”? I always thought it was a good idea, I have a board with a nose similiar to the blunt nose but not as exaggerated as the one in the pic