You can’t take the thread seriously is the way I choose to represent you as you seem to dis a guy who says a leash may have saved his life. I don’t need your appointment. So you believe Mac could have turned if he didnt use a leash?
I tend to agree with Icc on this. In this particular thread.
Here was the relevance to the thread…discussing leashes for a whole page was not my intentions as you can see in the bold lettering
Is English your second language?
Also, it’s not a question of taking this thread seriously. I can honestly say that I can’t take **you **seriously.
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Randy------- I’m an old guy and have nothing to say about things I know little about. But I totally respect you and your comments. Why ?? Because you know(experientially) what you are talking about. Lowel
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English is about my fifth language and that didn’t keep G Long out of the hospital. So do you think gmac could have turned without a leash mr marvel comic book hero?
You should GoPro because you don’t really GoBro,
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Sam I am not.
okay no I see where you’re coming from with that - sounded like you were one of the old uncles I’ve seen around here who think they’re completely useless. I know some guys who surf Jaws whom have had their lives saved thanks to it, but also adversely almost got killed because of them prior to the popularization of quick releases on big wave leashes.
And yeah, I damn sure hope those jet boards don’t catch on… I hate to say it, but if I ever saw one of those things at my local lineup I’d give it maybe 10 minutes max before some giant Tongan is stuffing the dudes hair into the intakes
I asked the question because you seemed to misunderstand what I wrote. Such as, accusing me of “dissing” someone for wearing a leash. Not sure where the hell you got that from. Also, when and where did I say anything about the ability to turn, with or without a leash? See what I’m getting at, here? What I wrote was a comparison between that wavejet thing and leashes. In so far as they both might engender a false sense of security among certain inexperienced people. This can lead to trouble.
So… ummmm
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Do you think GLongs leash might have saved his life?
Kookleash vs. kookjet aside, reading the statement from Greg Long, the leash may have saved his life: “I began climbing my leash, hoping to break the surface before passing out. I made it to the tail of my board while it was still submerged in the turbulent and aerated water, at which point I blacked out from CO2 saturation and lack of oxygen.”
What if he didn’t have his leash to climb? What if he blacked out deeper down, unable to get near the surface? What if he was not attached to his board, would he have been found? Granted, he was located on the surface but there is no telling if he would be on the surface or located that soon (only one wave after passing out) without a leash.
It seems that on some spots where the waves break on a slab/reef with deeper water on the inside the water is moving downwards after a wave passes to get out of the way. It may look fairly safe as the water is relatively calm on the inside, but it sucks you right down and the only way up is by the leash. Atleast that what people tell me. I’m staying the #¤%& away from those spots.
Yes.
You still seem to completely misunderstand what I was getting at.
Good answer. G(ee), Long live the leash.
sammy- i get it. i don’t wear a leash because it’s not really necessary where i surf. however, while in college it was necessary to wear one most of the places we surfed due to cold water, body and board smashing reefs, long swims in sharky water,etc. i think your analogy is a good one. motors and leashes can put people in situations they aren’t truly skilled enough to be in otherwise.
bottom line, it’s a lot nicer to surf without a leash but sometimes they are a necessity.
just wondering too, had Long not been wearing a leash do any of you think he would have been hit by his board-which caused his initial injuries?
You seem to be the only one who does, unfortunately.
Same here, pretty much. I learned without one and had already been surfing nearly ten years when they came along. I prefer not to wear one, but use them when appropriate. Where I live, most of the time the waves are less than chest high. No need for a leash under those conditions.
That was my whole point. Sadly, some folks seemed to miss it completely and proceeded to claim I said things that I never even implied. Any piece of gear that imparts a false sense of security is a bad thing.
It would be interesting to hear what kind of conversation the big wave studs who were out that day had among themselves about this situation, because this is Serious Business.
Regardless, they will most likely keep them quite discreet, as this is an elite group of pros getting paid to Surf Big Waves, and they are not about to engage in any public discussion that would generate negativity that could endanger their sponsors flow of $$.
What has not been discussed much, however, is the failure of the much vaunted air inflation safety wetsuit Greg was wearing that has become so en vogue with the big wave boyz.
A device they are becoming increasingly dependent on, along with the emergency air (Peter Mel used to carry one of those 15 yrs ago out at Mavericks) as the final back-ups. Maybe relying on them too much? So when the suit fails to inflate, off on the Life Flight chopper.
Regardless, the ‘average’ big wave scene is getting exceedingly crowded. Few people surf large SF OB anymore, which takes extraordinary commitment and endurance, they just all head to Mavericks, hell of a lot easier to get out to. So much so the clueless,unprepared and unworthy can and do so. How can the body count not rise?
