See, I think this is where the problem is coming from - you’re making one point in your mind, but then you finish it with a statement that basically sounds like you’re saying it serves no purpose at all.
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Any piece of gear that imparts a false sense of security is a bad thing[quote/]
See how that sounds? Parachutes create a flase selnse of security when flying a plane… are they a bad thing? Avalanche beacons create a false sense of security when snowboarding in the backcountry, are they a bad thing?
You have to keep it in context man, a leash is in no way “a bad thing” - you just don’t like them and prefer not to use them, kinda like how my grandfather didn’t like seatbelts and thus refused to wear one. It’s just becaue it’s what you grew up with. And I understand the point you’re making - I just think it’s statements like that one (mostly just the way you worded it, like I said, I get your point) that are fueling the fire with this other poster and causing the debate.
Seriously, I say we just keep to the GLong story here - leash debate in another thread.
And matt: GLong was indeed wearing a leash that day
I never have the problem of false senses of security in large surf. It’s usually too noisy anyway. I doubt many do. My friends are never that stupid. Stupidity and cash flow had more to do with the accident than leashes and wavejets unless mac couldn’t turn because of either. The question seemed to be why didn’t Mac turn. The answer seems to be he didnt know he should. Oblivion in a place where it could have killed a brother. A reacurring nightmare. Like the leash threads.
By the way Sammy. Did you enjoy your swim for your board today?
Shush: I had a very similar experience as your’s once at Puaena Pt. where the rip in the harbour channel wouldn’t let me get to the beach and that remaining piece of foam was most welcomed. It happened about an hour before sunset and I finally made it to the park about 30 or 40 minutes after dark. That same swell snapped Jeff’s board, a new 1", three stringered beauty over at Makaha.
Another time here at a rivermouth in Miyagi Japan I rescued a guy and we never would have made it back if I didn’t tow him in with my leg rope. I’ve used them as tow ropes about ten times in total. I don’t have a secret love affair with leashes, I don’t particularly enjoy wearing them on small or average days but they have saved lives. No bs.
I think the Wavejet people should pay for Greg’s hospital/air ambulance charges. Just take them from G Mac’s 2013 salary. Or G Mac can pay it himself and all will be cool until he does the next stupid thing.
Going 100 miles off shore to paddle-in to giant waves seems a bit extreme. I don’t get it, the chances of getting hurt are just too high. Add the 100 miles from shore part and you have an almost guaranteed possibilty that someone will die. Greg is lucky, very lucky. He may not be so lucky next time. The crowded lineup will get these guys, and they are creating the crowds.
I’ve lost very close friends in double overhead surf in Hawaii. They were good surfers and strong swimmers. I wonder what our lives would be like today if they were still around.
Nope. I think I was pretty clear. The whole discussion was triggered by someone speculating about people using a Wavejet to compensate for their lack of ability. Someone else mentioned the leash. My point (this is getting tiresome) is that some people use a leash to do just that…compensate for a lack in ability.
Now, before some other folks start up again with their ill conceived replies. take note that I said “some people”.
Anyway, it’s not my job to teach reading comprehension around here. Though there’s a definite need, it seems.
Bra you gotta chill out with the whole attacks on the dude’s english and reading ability - it’s already been established that english is not his first language, so now you’re just being kinda racist. Kinda lke going into a supermarket and ragging on the Mexican bagger because he doesn’t speak perfect english. It’s really not helping your attempts to look like “the adult” in this situation
See? This is what I mean. I wasn’t referring to anyone specifically. I was actually talking about the way you, and others, completely misread what I said. That’s why I brought up the “reading” thing. Also, you might want to look up the definition of “racist”. It has nothing to do with a person’s native language.
Ad Hominem? No. Truth? Yes = OK. I’ll never ask you if you enjoyed your surf session ever again. Promise.
By the way, you never answered the question, two actually, 1. Do you think GLongs leash contributed to saving his life. 2. Do you think Gmack’s leg rope tangled around his leg causing him to fade GLong.
Not quite as clearly as you imagine. C’mon, get over it weasel. A false sense of security caused Gmac to fade? Don’t expect me to buy that. Just one more for you to answer then.
There you go again. It’s a sign of a limited imagination and lack of maturity when you have to resort to name calling. My general impression is that you are severely butthurt over something. Your inability to communicate well makes it difficult to discern exactly why you keep slamming your sippy cup on the floor.
I won’t. Who said that, anyway? Sure as hell wasn’t me.
I will no longer reply in this thread. Mostly because it is hard to have a conversation with someone who cannot understand plain fvcking English, and needs to resort to name calling when the real problem is that they cannot read.
Ever wonder if Sammy thinks GLongs first language isn’t English because he sounds different, oh Gmac has an accent too. Some of my Hawaiian buds consider it an insult to say English is their first language.
Sammy? GLong ridin that bomb drop at the Eddie was pretty cool a few years back. I wouldn’t want to be GLong though. I wouldn’t want to be Mac either. If I were Mac I be at GLongs side begging for forgiveness basically. I’m like you in one way though. When I have the chance to go leashless I usually do and I sometimes swim once or twice for my board during a session.
You’ll never find me perched atop a 40+’ bank bomb grasping of all things a false sense of security. You probably wouldn’t do that either I am sure.
