kind of like you on your “surfboard”?
petro chemical clothes/wetsuit
petro chemical resin, fiberglass, foam core, fins, wax
what about the shampoo/soap residue on your skin or the cologne that will wash off
and none of that leaches into the ocean while you do your thing?
unless you’re body surfing naked and don’t pee while you are doing it
you might as well get real
a surfer is the worst example of being “green”
its all voodoo
you have to be a lemming not to see so
I’m all in favor of being green…if this left a chemical trail in the water, it would be a no go. Wear off? What do you think happens to the wax on your board…it doesn’t just dissapear, it joins everything else…
and about those dead dinaosaurs going up the tail pipe while driving for a surf…
it just is what it is…far from a perfect world…which is why we surf, trying to harvest some perfect moments…
enhance your performance - viagra for surfboards!
bottom line
if you want to live in the past
we’d all be riding 12’ wooden planks of wood
we will never learn
unless we have the guts to try something new
otherwise we are just part of the problem
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bottom line
if you want to live in the past
we'd all be riding 12' wooden planks of wood
we will never learn
unless we have the guts to try something new
otherwise we are just part of the problem
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I think you are taking this way too serious.
In the 70’s Oneula was a Tom Morey disciple. He altered boards with the strangest things because Tom Morey was doing it. The first time he used coatings on the bottom of his board was probably mid 70’s.
You can bet that he is totally serious about this. In the end it may not lead to anything worthwhile, but he’s going to dig into it full on and see if it has merit.
OK, I'm not into spraying hydrophobic stuff on my surfboard, but different strokes for different folks - I am all for playing around with surfboard design, i just like to see people keep it fun. Oneula is usually pretty lighthearted and upbeat, thought he might get a laugh outta my picture.
don’t worry huck
This is all just for fun that’s why I do it.
I’ve spent ten’s of thousand over the past decade just playing around with this new fangled vacuum bagging composite epoxy sh*t and it didn’t help my surfing one bit.
Buying hundred of boards over my surfing career never really did it either.
It only came for hours and hours of practice 6 hour a day sessions for days a time
I hate the industry and everything about modern surfing because its all a facade
these are just all throw away toys and in the end you really don’t need any of it to enjoy the art of being in to the ocean and riding a wave
we know this because we grew up on the beach at a time when we could not afford such things and surfing was considered by our parents as goofing off instead of doing what you were supposed to be doing to survive and hlep out.
Many a weekend morning we were forced to wake up early and tie on stink bait and then spend most of the morning crabbing for food while our peers got to “play” in the breaking waves right in front of us. Or be forced to come in when the waves were going off in the evening glass so we could help lay net with our parents to catch our meal for the next day or two.
Look at what the same folks complaining and ridiculing about the new tech do with their cars, and all the other play toys they have out there, stereos, TVs, even their Skill 100’s and converted hitachi planers. Modify the dust chute? OMG how could you do that says the finish carpenter for whom the tool was originally designed.
So I play and I try new unheard of things because you never know what you never know.
Been doing it most of my surfing career before many on this site were even born.
Never felt constrained by what others thought, cause in the end I know it didn’t matter to anyone except themselves they were trying to please and impress.
I like how my “mental mentor” described his enlightenment when he said.
"At some point in my life I realized I didn’t need the “More” anymore and just decided to become “Y?” "
the Timothy Leary of surfing couldn’t have said it any better.
so…
let hear some more reviews
I know I got testing to do myself this coming swell
One question that’s been lingering in the back of my mind is how to take all this stuff off when I’m done and realize I don’t like it…
Acetone?
Sand?
White Gas?
Denatured Alcohol?
We had a 4’ swell for a week so I surfed 3 hour sessions 3 days in a row with the board I sprayed with Never Wet. As I said earlier I sprayed the entire bottom, fins and rails last week. After my second day surfing pretty much everything I sprayed lost it’s water wicking affect, the only area that still had a little was the fins.To me I didn’t notice any difference surfing the board and this board is my go to board for a while.Just carrying the board from your car to the water wears off the wicking ability where your hands were, The board stays rough to the touch and I noticed if I don’t grip the rails tight my hands slip off going for waves. My final thought on this product is it’s a fragile system not made to be touched, scraped or handled in anyway, just waxing my board on my shaping racks made the wicking affect wear off the bottom where my pads where. This is just my opinion, I got caught up in the hype, I tried it, I feel I gave it a fair test and I won’t be using it again.
Happy 4th everyone, I hope your holiday weekend is filled with board building, waves and beer
Tom
Tom Thanks for the report. Glad you got some waves up there. You saved me $20 that gets you a beer when and if we ever meet up. also one atta boy, collect 100,000 atta boys and you get the Tee Shirt.
Another thanks for the report. Although I’m disappointed it’s good to know I don’t have to do anymore time on the subject. Although… I just wunder if they could make that shit stick we might get a more acurate reading as to the extra velosity it might make.
Cheers.
You’re welcome guys,
Looking forward to getting together at some point Doug, the free tee shirt has to say" sucker" on it
I don’t think I’d be too quick to dismiss this product, and its application to surfing. Surface prep may have a significant impact on how durable the coating is, as well as cure time before use. Anyone curing it in the sun? Using a heat gun? Pre warming the surface, before application? There are quite a few variables to take into consideration.
Bill, the board I coated was epoxy with a 400 grit sanded finish that was cleaned with water let dry for a day then coated and dried as per instructions, threw it in the pool and pushed it around and watched the water bead off just like the video. The board then stayed in my shop for almost a week before i took it out surfing. The water beaded off it when I put it in the ocean but after the second surf session the water didn’t bead anymore. The roughness of the product is still there but no water beading. Also when I applied this product it was in my shop which was about 80 degrees and at night. The directions states you can re apply when needed which I did in several areas and to no avail the same end result. This is just my experience with the product. Try a small test on and old board and after it’s dry just run your finger across the area and then throw water on it I bet that area will not bead. I’m not trying to sway anyone from using the product, everybody wanted a true test in the water and these are my findings, if you notice in all the Never Wet videos they never touch the surface that is being soiled with there hands or anything.
Happy 4th Bill and to everyone
Tom
tom
I agree on the durability issue
just wish there was an easy way to remove it
they all have the same problem
surf nano products
nano tune
blue goo
speed juice
even a finally shaped board loses its magic
nothing lasts
except the waves
Aloha Tom,
Thanks for the expanded info. I’ve not applied the product on any surface thus far, so have not seen it ‘‘in action’’ yet. I think I’ll go the ‘‘beater’’ route first, before I put it on a show quality board. If a beater improves, so will a good surfboard.
WD-40 seems a viable option, then. Water displacement (WD) spray on that will wear off with abrasion. Not for top decks, obviously! Debatable whether it’s less harmful for the envionment http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/st_whatsinside
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the stuff is marketed to repel mud and ice-- two harsh abrasives. They shoot it on steel floor treads. Bonds to fiberglass. Have to think there’s something that can be done to get it to stick. 220-320 grit? I’m going to call Ross Tech direct. Unless Rustoleum screwed the pooch on their delivery method…
Still going to test a large flatwater board & paddle, just haven’t had time, shaping and glassing this week, working most of next. My space is occupied until work is done.
It sticks very well and it is still on the board, what happens is the water beading effect wears off very quick and you are left with a very rough surface from the product. I will have to sand the board to get the product off. The actual coating stays on, the wicking effect from the second can wears off.quick