Now this is Sways at its best

Ryan Burch riding some insane looking stuff at Indo in October

looks like some Alexander Gemini influence in those noses.

I left a Gemini with George Gall last year around April, I wonder if Eckstrom and Ryan saw it at George’s shop. I know they are all mad scientists working togethor.

But I like this kid, he seems free of all the BS surrounding the industrial complex that surfing has become.

I see Terry Fitz surfing Jefferies.or Joey Cabell at Santosha when I see this video (thanks Locar)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJpEHK6VjcA#t=0

 

 

 

 

 

Love it. What a wave. 

he’s a fun surfer/builder to watch and listen to. just seems pretty open minded and not afraid to fail with a shape, plus his surfing speaks for itself.

a cruise through his instagram account shows some really neat stuff and a lot of his shapes definitely seem ekstrom and gemini-inspired (which i think he mentioned in an interview or video somewhere). pretty cool!

http://instagram.com/bobbersandsinkers

the kid rips and seems to have an open mind , design wise. [ It seems like the hockey stick fins work okay for him , too, eh ?!  :)  ]

 

he belongs on the swaylocks of old , eh , Bernie ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHWTNQz1ZWI

 

  thanks for sharing , mate !

 

 cheers

 

  ben

 

 

This kid should have his own section on swaylocks, just to keep us updated with his latest discoveries…

Yup Ben gets me all excited like when I was a grom in the early 70’s and didn’t give a sh*t about what I made or played around with.

another more in depth video

http://vimeo.com/87952301

agreed !

Thanks oneula!

Ya know I’m a fan.

Really good share…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

didn’t have the devil nose but Steve Morgan (the rich guy from Molokai at Hawaiian Island Creations) was pushing something similar about a decade or so ago. Almost bought one… Unfortunately I saw a Rex Manta in action got a custom Gemini from Jeff Alexander who was also shaping for HIC. This was based on a reccomendation from (Marvin?) the store manager of the Haleiwa HIC shop I stopped by and  who was riding one at the time.

I’m glad a really talented surfer is taking another route, similar to Daniel Thomson and his pop in your area Ben. Those crazy guys (Glenn Collins/Earle Pederson/Jic Mebane) at www.surf1770noosa.com have been pushng the envelope for decades but Daniel and Ryan have got the skills of any pro on tour today.

 

 

He sure can find the speed line. Speed racer.

I liked what he said about making boards for the way he likes to surf, and how they look funny to other people, and that the way he rides them isn’t nearly as odd as the boards look.  Kinda shows that the surfing world is “fashion oriented”, focused on latest popular styles, rather than creativity and individuality.

I make boards to satisfy myself. I don’t always make great riding boards, but there’s been a lot I’ve learned about rocker, bottom shapes, number of fins, rail, etc. The whole thing started after a shaper who I was getting boards from didn’t want to do some changes to one of his designs. It has sinced gone all over the place making boards that no big name would ever do. I do have more than a dozen I ride regularly for different reasons, and it’s a good feeling knowing that I made them all myself. Many were cut out of blocks or sheets of foam, so I even had to create a blank myself. 

That’s what Swaylocks has opened up to me. A whole lot of ideas that you’ll never get from the mainstream of surfing.

Xlnt post, and I agree. It’s good to appreciate what a treasure trove of creativity swaylocks is when compared to the mainstream.

Looks like the Mach 5 alright.

Style for miles

Speaking of style, few weeks back a young pro longboarder from SoCal, Cyrus Sutton, was up here doing some filming during a run of really fun small waves.

Said Ryan is the real deal, and in addition to the futuristic shapes he apparently makes some sweet logs as well.

We need more Ryans.  

Yeah Bernie both Ryan and Carl scoped that board out quite a bit.  Ryan said he made over 40 boards for himself in 30 days.  He had funding but did it with no help.  Now he has a ton of boards all over the world at epic surf venues.

BTW, Jeff recently re-introduced the Spider Board motif, looks just like yours but a few inches longer.

 

Good stuff!

George

 

Oh, I have to say that board that Jeff did way back when, is SO technically advanced in the shape.  Mostly the rockers and

bottom contours.  I didn’t care for the rails pinched like that as I had problems with water coming over them while paddling.

But overall, the boards have some amazing attributes and should not be quickly dismissed.

G

Living the dream!

I wouldn’t dismiss them and would love to try one, if for no other reason the endorsement by Bernie and George. But I’ll just say you better be a damn good surfer when you get in the water with one of those. 

Well Sharkbait has that like 6’4" that Steamroller is holding in the picture above

hard to believe that Clinton rode it at 230-250lbs of solid muscle

maybe one day if Sharkbait keeps getting fatter like me we’ll need to send it your way.

and you’re right, you better surf decent with that contraption under your arm walking to the beach or sitting in the lineup 

Its a conversation maker for sure. When I sat out at Hanalei last year, the comment I mostly heard was, “eh Uncle, how come you riding your board backwards?, the swallow tail goes on the other side?” followed by loud laughter which is always good in ant lineup. And those speeds/turns Ryan’s getting is what the Gemni is all about. 

I’ve picked up two Gemini’s from his already that 6’4" which I traded a 7’6" REX Manta for and a 6’2" Jon Lalanne that I traded a 6’4" Bully for so mucho thanks to Steamroller since Jeff now resides in Bali.

And George thanks, I knid of had a feeling you showed it to him and you’re right about the rail/center line rocker plus the quad setup which is my brother’s all time favorite to use.

George I really like the reverse assym 8’0,

I must surf backasswards because I think it feels better than the regular assym.

What’s Ryan’s take on the Reverse Assym?

Good kid, Godd surfing, Good waves, Good stuff,

Hi Bernie,

 

That’s so funny you ask, we had long (somewhat heated) discussions about the Reverse and how well it worked.  The “Reverse” A_Symm is not completely backwards (ie. a regular foot board used by a goofy foot.)  The Reverse was a reversed template but keeping the rocker(s) of a Standard A_Symm.  The past paradigm for the Asymmetric was to loosen the Heel Side, making it shorter in rail line and adding more rocker.  The Reverse was to LENGTHEN the Heel Side rail line, and have MASSIVE amounts of rocker, so much so that if the board was symmetric with that much rocker, it would be a dog (until you threw a turn, then it worked beautifully.)  That rockered Heel Side was “carried along for the ride” by the straighter, shorter toe side (the toe side was slightly more than half the board, meaning the Toe Side features spilled over the the Heel Side, about 60/40.)

 

Anyways, we had a big chuckle about how we all, for years, were explaining and rationalizing the Asymmetric board, “shorter length, for more snap, etc.” only to find that nearly the opposite worked even better.  Then after a long pause, “SHHHHH!!!  This shows we don’t know what the f*#k we’re talking about…” which is CLASSIC Carl! ha.

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Like Greg, I’m not a big fan of the pickle fork nose, it’s like a weed puller for human heads.  Also the “unlimited hydroplane” concept of air induction, I’m not buying it, since we know the water doesn’t travel straight under the board enough of the time to warrant a positive effect.  HOWEVER, the inverted Vee, which is nearly impossible to shape well by hand, along with the roll of the bottom panels is pure genius (bottom (left and right) panels actually “twist” as they progress down the board and continue to extract/translate falling/gravity energy into “forward go”.)  More of the board is an engine, and you can see this in the incredible accelerations that are possible, it’s like at least an octave or two faster than conventional single-to-double and single-with-double bottom contours.

The overall morph of the board is quite salient.  The twin tip is easily filled into a square or a diamond or a swallow nose: the end-effect being more PARALLEL OUTLINES of the whole board, and for a given length of board, surfs quite nicely.  Jeff even got the tail block narrowed, still with parallel lines. The boards even paddle faster, still don’t fully understand why, but in the surf it’s true.  NOT true for the racing SUPs and Canoes we’ve designed, just a note.  It’s almost like tear-drop shapes do well in “straight space” like a wind tunnel with straight-moving air, and the parallel outline does well in “curved space” like the face of a wave.  *don’t get me started on the acceleration gradient of the water going up the face of the wave, it IS relevant! 

Notice Ryan’s boards make good use of dual-modulus carbon, very smart, he’s a top level surfer, so (unfortunately) he makes everything look good, but if you study when he compresses down onto the board, and you see the incredible amounts of extracted speed, you come to realize that he has tapped into a good flex pattern, thanks to smart construction.

 

That video is a great case study for what is going to be possible…

 

 

Best regards,

George