i think Gregs ideas are the simplest and most practical
thick boards dont snap easy
long thin boards snap easy
pointy noses are for d!ckheads
three fins work better then any other combo
lots of tail rocker is good
not much nose rocker is good
cant figure out why anyone would use cork/corecork unless its as a Dampener or posible dent resistant . tensile strengthwise its incredibly weak. paulownia is in everyway superior wrt tensile strength. anyone try an argue that is deluded or trying to sell you somethin
as far as composites go. its all about the rail. flexible and strong. skins dont matter much at all. the ones bert could jump on were on the money in that respect
can pretty much snap anyboard over 7foot when its pumping so they may as well be cheap. you dont want to see a piece of your 2k sunova floating away in the rip
rusty dwart and the like are the best designs for older surfers. short thick and wide . others to compare would be nuggets molusc and NP junior designs . why cant i find one on the shelf
hey rusty take the point off the nose and your on the money!
Some good points Paul. High tech builds are the realm of the pro level…the higher the level , the lighter they want …Some of the tech eventually filters down to the point of practicality and viability to benefit the average punter…you don’t need a high tech formula1 race car to drive down the shop for the milk and bread…
Some good points Paul. High tech builds are the realm of the pro level......the higher the level , the lighter they want ......Some of the tech eventually filters down to the point of practicality and viability to benefit the average punter......you don't need a high tech formula1 race car to drive down the shop for the milk and bread...........
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I've wondered about that. I always thought the point of high tech was to get high performance, light weight, and durabiltiy in a factory made production board for the average joe.
same as everything in board design, it has to be used the right way and for the right customer…I have been making some average surfers some EPS-epoxies and they are lovin the light, lively extra responsiveness of them, just doing it on fuller nosed shapes with some width ( typical semi-fish type shapes for less talented surfers ) to suit their level of surfing, a bit of adjustment to the different feel of the construction, but with the shape being wider it limits the transition( from PU to EPS ) and has the stability a less skilled surfer needs…but the turns are bigger and more critical due to the lightness and respose of the lighter construction , great to see them lovin their surfin as they are doing bigger turns then they used to…
“Some good points Paul. High tech builds are the realm of the pro
level…the higher the level , the lighter they want …Some of
the tech eventually filters down to the point of practicality and
viability to benefit the average punter…you don’t need a high tech
formula1 race car to drive down the shop for the milk and bread…”
Hi Kayu like heavy boards so if i use lighter techy materials i can glass them double 6 oz lol so i can surf em up the shingle. havent seen it(tech) benefit the average punter tho. average punter mainly spectators imo . most riding boards they cant paddle or get in to late if its big. a 50 year old on a long board still dominates most breaks if they want and thats adhereing to the arbitrary rules of surfing, first to feet. badest muthaf!cka ( will beat the shit out of anyone that complains lol) still gets the most waves, so long as they can make the drop, and thats any wave in the world.
to many d!ckheads that think they are pros doing critical moves too close to other surfers . they are basically throwing a spear at someone . need a bash imo.
just done a corkdeck carbon rail eps thing and its solid as a rock, cork is dentproof 4 sure . im thinking same effect as rubber in snowboards perhaps. dampens the feel of eps and makes it buttery. its forecast 4 to 5 foot and offshore on thurs ill let you know how it goes in the juice. its not to used in the way you would make a compsand tho as in tensile strength . i rekon just gets some 12 mm tiles and contact onto your old shooter and give it some volume. im gunna do that on a few boards .
if i had the time id make a 1 inch thick compsand with a recessed deck (rail would be normal thickness )and inlay 2 inches of cork or phoam into the recess. you could replace it once a year or add and remove volume depeding on how many cakes or beers you consume. ( im more into cakes) rails and bottom would be cedar/glass
pridmore dont you mean a board for a fat , lazy or old c!nt with f£cked knees . talent aint got nothing to do with it. talent quest aLL THE MOMS cAN WATCH cuz nonone else finds watching surfing interesting unless they do it themselves. theres only one comp that counts and thats natural selection badest or smartest gets the most resources. let them dream . bottle or the crack gets most of the showponies by 30 anyway when thay relize that no one cares they can do an air
I havn’t use cork enough yet , juries out for me…it will find its place though…varying the thickness ?..I like the “no wax”…possibilities open up when you dont need to go ultra-light !!!
…hello PC, I like your directs point of views about the surfboards and surfers.
Its all ok with all these other building process but I insist that with a normal construction you can have the “feel” and you really can go whatever part of the wave; yes, you can do a cranked bottom turn to hit and smash the lip/curl at Pipeline, Teahupoo, Zicatela, etc, etc
Why almost nobody do that? Because is too dangerous not due the board.
The ONLY real problem that I found with the PU boards are the fatigue and that s because we exceeded the products limits
I just got mt first high tech light weight board. I told josh i wasn't concerned with super light weight, so he made it with the heaviest glassing he does. Guess what? its still by far the lightest board i've ever owned, and i have to say, it surfs insane. I mean, i have no idea if its the shape, the tech, or combinatation of the two ( plus rocker etc etc ), but the lightness makes it so responsive, and fast and free. Other light weight mass produced boards i tried were just plain corky, but this is not corky in any way at all. It's odd, under your arm it feels super light, as well as under your feet. But paddling around it feels like a lightly glassed poly. Unreal. I think light weight is a positive now, where i used to not care about weight.
P.S i've done THE best cutbacks i've ever done on this board by far.
Hey Paul,
In my pond having tech or design uniqueness makes you marketable. Makers of nice poly or epoxy boards are a dime a dozen in Hawaii and a dime a hundy in Asia. Having vac stations and composite know how knowledge makes you unusual. Of course, it’s hard work for little pay in my opinion.
Also, though corecork has had a slow start, it will be the next big thing in surfboard building. So many possibilities that actually save time and money with a better end product in durability/surfability. I think the jury has brought the verdict on corecork…AWESOME!!!endless possibilities!!!
There’s a lot of good points about cork…most I have yet to discover personally…for starters its wood…and its waterproof…easy to use…has good traction for the deck…available and affordable…it is lacking in tensile strength , but that can be overcome…one thing I like , is that it cannot be “bullshit marketed” as anything other than what it is…its cork…it grows on trees and has an interesting history of practical use for many applications…another thing is that it comes from Portugal , and those guys can do with any economic boost they can , to sustain their traditional industries…
I am 1 year into the core cork, used over 450 feet of nl- 20 2mm.
Made sailboards, SUP’s, tow boards, surfboards from 5’6" to 10’6", Have taken the cost to me 60 dollar foam traction pad for SUPs and have a 10 dollar cork replacement traction that works better, is lighter and looks unreal.
Getting into exposed decks hard now.
I see next the possibility with no outer glass boards, everything under the cork with exposed deck and epoxy only outer covering of bottom and rails.
Bottom line,
No bring backs,no breaks No Bulls&^t.
Who cares where it is from or that it is remewable green BS. Corecork is awesome. The potential of corecork for surfboards has not even scratched the surface yet.
I dream aobut different ways to use it. Hats off to drew for turning me on to this stuff and all the vac baggers using it.
