Orange foam

General Discussion
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Hey fellow Sways, looking into the “orange” PU foam from US or similar.

**ORANGE, **approximately 12% - 13% lighter than BLUE. Currently only available in short boards.

RED, approximately 6% - 7% lighter than BLUE.

Using red currently and have learned a lot in shaping and glassing.

That said here is my question(s).

How much slower should I expect to have to go and is it more trouble with ripping?

I can only assume that density is weak but how much?

Having, taken the red blank down to single 4oz bottom and 1 ¾ 4oz  deck with some Vector net 227 and Vector Net XP 138 - 1/2" Triaxial  for a little extra support in critical spots. I am hoping to save some weight in the blank which can become a stronger lam.

BTW investigating ESP/epoxy like a hungry school kid. Just hard to change!

Thanks in advance for any input!

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The only orange I’ve seen to date is Arctic’s Orange.  They had several Orange blanks at the board show in Del Mar.  If it is the Arctic you will have no problems with tearing.  Even density throughout.  US Blanks was at the show as well>  No Orange.

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Hi Matty haven’t tried orange foam or eps, but went with epoxy five yrs ago when I made my first board, and never looked back. Before that my experience was strictly poly - doing ding repair mainly. 

Wish surfding was still posting, he explored the options and posted results. A lot of it was over my head at the time. I have friend who thinks eps / epoxy best for strength / lightness.

guys on here say vac bagged veneer over eps is best yet, I haven’t been inclined to take that road yet myself, but I respect the results Ive seen Posted on here.

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US Blanks carries an Orange density a lot of our Poly/ Epoxy is done on it…

Millenniums orange is now pink

and Arctic has orange.

The orange foams all machine and shape fine. They do suck a bit more paint airbrushing.

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http://www.swaylocks.com/forums/orange-formula-us-blanks-trials

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*especially the USB

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For more on your question there are several people I know who use Orange/pink etc and lam  a poly 6/4/6 on it. for the reason you are mentioning. We use it for our poly epoxies and use a 646 glassing schedule on that as well.  no slowing in shape time. it actually is probably a bit faster because it sands faster

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Ya know I was at FGH rummaging thru the blanks saw a parabolic in the seconds and grabbed it (thinking PU) gezz!!! So light so how come the finished product is IMO =?

Hey I can dig everysurfer’s stuff but it is just too complex for us “on our last time around” to become accomplished at, ah, before we have to kick out.

PM’d surfding and got some simple but informative advice on EPS/XPS and (pardon my pun) you are my “Huckleberry” for epoxy lessons HA!!!

Just got few more boards rattling around here and thank God a little $$$ for blanks…

Summer time Blues.

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For shortboards, all I buy is US Blanks Orange density.

Light stuff.

I have to cut just slightly slower. Not much.

Switched from Red 2 years ago and never went back.

I had to glass the decks a little stronger.

A layer of S-glass or D-size to toughen up the deck. I usually use that cause I really don’t like E-glass.

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Thanks what a head full read all 5 pages!

I’ll keep my opions to myself, loved the tread hated it maybe a novel like “the good the bad the ugly”.

Bottomline = FINISH WEIGHT  ORANGE = 5.25 POUNDS    RED = 5.70 POUNDS

I feel bad, shoulda been hep about Sway’s back then.

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Barry,

Thanks for your input and I hope all is well with your changes. Hope you don’t mind but Ohana 1st!

Can you tell me more on the darkside of E?  PM