I am about to hot-coat a board and intend to spray paint pin lines on the hot-coated deck afterwards. I am not intending to do a gloss-coat. Is there likely to be any problem with this. Will the painted pin lines wear off without a resin sealing them? Can anyone help please.
They may wear after some use. You could spray some clear over them…
i read that traditional pin lines done in resin are used with gloss resin, or sanding resin. why not lam. resin? anyone here a pro with pinlines?
i read that traditional pin lines done in resin are used with gloss resin, > or sanding resin. why not lam. resin? anyone here a pro with pinlines? Lam resin will always be sticky. The wax in the gloss, and sanding resin cause it to harden all the way through. I’ve also seen pin lines done with pin and ink.
They may wear after some use. You could spray some clear over them… It is possible to do the pin line and then do a hot coat over just the pin line area and sand it so it blends in. But you have to do it right and be really careful when you sand. Personnaly I just paint them on the foam, but there is a glasser in our area who does it this way. Aloha, Kokua
i just glossed a board this afternoon. my pinlines, done with resin, blead (bleed). i did them in lam. resin. i can figure it to be a few things…1. it was lam. resin. 2. a few spots i lightly sanded were heavy bleeders. 3. the pigment wasn’t mixed well enough. 4. too much pigment. ??? can anyone help narrow this down?
Teddy - I don’t fool around with color much any more. It takes a lot of time and effort. When I did resin pinlines (not that mine were that good) I used resin with surfacing agent and mixed it fairly hot - it seems pigment slows down the cure. After it sets up completely, I lightly wet sanded, then used acetone on a rag to wipe the lines. It seems like there was usually a little pigment that came to the surface even when I mixed thoroughly. I always ended up with a little color on the rag which I assume would have bled.
Teddy - I don’t fool around with color much any more. It takes a lot of > time and effort. When I did resin pinlines (not that mine were that good) > I used resin with surfacing agent and mixed it fairly hot - it seems > pigment slows down the cure. After it sets up completely, I lightly wet > sanded, then used acetone on a rag to wipe the lines. It seems like there > was usually a little pigment that came to the surface even when I mixed > thoroughly. I always ended up with a little color on the rag which I > assume would have bled. Here’s a trick I use. prep the board for the pin line and also tape off the rails for your gloss coat. Make your pin line batch with pigment and sanding resin. Shoot your pinline and while it’s going off get your gloss resin ready. After you pull the pin line tape but before it gets to hard you can shoot your gloss and if you did it right it’ll come out fine. Just remember this is a some what tricky process, the trick is knowing just when to shoot the gloss coat so it will adhere to the pin line.Aloha, Kokua
won’t the brush smear the lines if some parts set slower than others? i don’t understand why there is a rush for the gloss coat? i’m not contradicting you, i just can’t figure why…thanks kokua
won’t the brush smear the lines if some parts set slower than others? i > don’t understand why there is a rush for the gloss coat? i’m not > contradicting you, i just can’t figure why…thanks kokua If your timing is right there is no smearing. If you mix your batch properly I can’t see why it would not set a the same time. It’s not that there’s a rush but this way you don’t have to sand the pin line. You’re going to gloss it anyway so why not save your self a step or two.Aloha, Kokua
If your timing is right there is no smearing. If you mix your batch > properly I can’t see why it would not set a the same time. It’s not that > there’s a rush but this way you don’t have to sand the pin line. You’re > going to gloss it anyway so why not save your self a step or two.Aloha, > Kokua One thing that you may or may not know. Sanding resin has wax in it. If you let it dry all the way the wax will come to the top and you have to sand it off or no other resin will stick. If you do it right you coat it with your finishing resin before the wax forms and the wax goes right to the surfice of the finishing resin coat. Like Kokua says you save yourself a sanding step.
One thing that you may or may not know. Sanding resin has wax in it. If > you let it dry all the way the wax will come to the top and you have to > sand it off or no other resin will stick. If you do it right you coat it > with your finishing resin before the wax forms and the wax goes right to > the surfice of the finishing resin coat. Like Kokua says you save yourself > a sanding step. This is an old trick that i’ve used for over 30 years. Now a days a lot of pin lines are done with ink pens but I still get orders for pigment piners. It’s very possible that some of the new age glassers aren’t aware of this trick due to ink pin lines done these days. What makes this a great site is that us older surf board makers can share this info with the younger generation of board builders. Aloha, Kokua
This is an old trick that i’ve used for over 30 years. Now a days a lot of > pin lines are done with ink pens but I still get orders for pigment > piners. It’s very possible that some of the new age glassers aren’t aware > of this trick due to ink pin lines done these days. What makes this a > great site is that us older surf board makers can share this info with the > younger generation of board builders. Aloha, Kokua Yep Kokua I remember that on pigment panels,another way is to just scuff em lightly with a red scotchbrite pad to cut the wax…no dust.For guys that want to try the old way just put a dab of your color batch on some waxpaper,it will jell to a cheese consistancy and you can lift it off…at that time you are ready to go.I speak of Reichold Resin,Silmar seems to take for ever to go off and may cause problems but I’m not sure.Silmar vs. Reichold could be a whole discussion in itself.
i don’t understand the wax paper idea??