Peanut paipo.

Found one of these washed up, Farrelly, McCoy and even KFC did a version way back.

XPS ?, and with the weather being horrible for glassing I thought Id try something different. Something like Allangibbons or Benny1 have done with a peanut outline but for a paipo/bodyboard.

Measurd it like BB suggests, 3" nose and 1.5" tail.

And with this outline the nose will nedd more lift.

Thsi pic is a bit rough but the lines are for the concaves , I thought Id do two, 3/4 length concaves but make the concaves asymmetrical.

Brett.

Asymmetrical like this where the apex of the concave is slightly closer to the rail and then the slope on either side is gentle on the stringer side and sharper on the outside so the concave has more bite on the rail side.

It initially had 3" of nose rocker but with a square front outline Ive added another inch to the rocker, from the vertical RED line forward.

The concaves (BLUE line ) overlap the increased rocker and slowly increase in depth towards the tail.

I got one concave roughed in and then it rained again…

I’m trying to mix new designs together with each board.

Brett.

Finished shaping but because its potystyrene Im not glassing it but seeing how the shape works and then altering it to refine what shape gives the best results. I understand that if I keep altering it I will eventually make it worse.

I rode it today on a few dozen peaky clean waves at Manly. Its too bouyant, the polystyrene sits way high which is good in some respects but makes duck diving a hassle.

So the first rule, volume and material selection is important because some foams are more bouyant than others.

Id post a pic here but the button to do that has disappeared.

The channels definately helped hold the board from sliding down the wave when I was going acrss the wave , but they dont hold or drive like fins do.

Second rule, channels add hold but they cant compete with fins, unless the channels have deep skeggy Cadillac fin-like sides, but thats just copying fins and calling it something else.

I put an extra in of nose rocker into the board but after riding it I found I had to move forward to ‘rock’ the board into its fastest angle, in other words to align the ‘average’ angle of the hull into the fastest angle.

Third rule, better off with flatter rocker forward and then flip the nose, or use a longer flatter rocker throughout.

The rails I left SQUARE, flat sided blocks, see pics above, just to see what the effect was.

The block rails did catch but only when I moved forward and rolled the outside rail down towards the face. Riding from the tail or middle, turning with the board up on a rail it was fine. Only when I moved forward and kept the board flat did the front rail grab, and being square it grabs BIG time but the effect of a square front rail is not continiously apparent as I would have previously thought !

But the rest of the time it was impossible to tell that the rails were any different to any other board.

Forth rule, rounded rails are only essential in the front half of the board to give a bit of leeway to prevent catching. The general soft rounded shape of rails is done because it provides no sharp corners and is a logical way to connect the deck and hull planes. So I’ll put rounded rails or boat rails on the front but I see no reason to surround every board with them if there are other options to test and try.

SO Im going to take out a bit of bulk, flatten out the nose rocker and round the front rails. And if I can post pics I will, whatever happened to the upload/post pic buttons on the editor ?

Regards, Brett.

Hi Brett!

looks great like always! Are you going to do sidecuts on it (like the nose and tail are wider than the middle - like a realpeanut?) i’ve seen boards that had that but never understood completely how THAT works. Is it to make the tail more lose by getting more air under it?

Some one enlight me please! :smiley:

greetings,

Eef

Eef, thanks for your comments. I have done sidecuts on the board but theyre subtle, my board is thinner in the centre but only by an inch and a half, its more comfortable to sit on and easier to hold on to when I fall off because I dont use a leash.

Im using the sidecuts to reduce the wetted surface, loosen the nose and cut down on ‘forward-facing’ rails.

Were you thinking that air would get drawn under the board at the ‘waist’ ? I never thought of that !

Brett.

Hello Brett,

Were you thinking that air would get drawn under the board at the ‘waist’ ? I never thought of that !

yes something like that! I’ve seen surfboards that have sidecuts, like this (Richard Kenvin with a Mirandon porpoise board):

Do you, or anyone :D, know what the effect of these on boards performance is?

Eef

<span style="font-weight:bold"><span style="text-decoration:underline"> Holy horseshit Batman !</span></span>    Ive never seen that design !! Do you know of a www.??? where I can find out more about them? 

Im a water kook but I cant fathom how that would work?

It looks like Kevin Costner too.

Brett.

But now Ive thought about it for a while…

Quote:

Hello Brett,

Were you thinking that air would get drawn under the board at the ‘waist’ ? I never thought of that !

yes something like that! I’ve seen surfboards that have sidecuts, like this (Richard Kenvin with a Mirandon porpoise board):

Do you, or anyone :D, know what the effect of these on boards performance is?

Eef

no www. yet but we are going to have our own site up soon … all i can say now is it works and really loads up through turns for incredible speed… i’ve riden it in everything from 1 foot beachbreak to head high rincon and even big wed at blacks… richard kenvin has a couple photos on his blog for hydrodynamica http://hydrodynamica.blogspot.com/2008/03/mirandons-trip-on.html

"This is Eli Mirandon surfing a board he designed with his father Nick Mirandon,

inspired by Uncle Bear’s side cut experiments circa 1970…a porpoise board.

Eli rides the board in a…shall we say…progressive manner. Aerials…whatever,

he can do anything on it.

He is shown here on 3/12/08 riding the left at Windansea where Nick watched Butch Van Artsdaalen

rip Al Nelson’s 5’6" Simmons inspired balsa dual fin 50 years ago…

the evolution continues…if those lefts could talk." -richard kenvin


G’day Eli,

After seeing a youtube clip of you surfing a fish backhand which was posted in the “Non thruster video clip” thread I believe you when you say the board works.