pigment / tint fins

hi I’m a ‘newbie’ here [post # 2].

I was wondering if people here had laid up pigment AND tint combined fin panels ?

I was thinking of going 10 layers blue tint, 10 layers yellow pigment , then a further 10 layers blue tint again, approximately. [They’re for fcs, I’m using 5oz flatweave, in case anyone was wondering ]

I guess I was just wondering if I’ll be getting a ‘green’ look when foiling where the yellow and blue meet, and also if it would give as clear a seperation between those colours as pigment has in the past for me ?

[It’s the first time I’ve bought tint, so I thought I’d start with fins before venturing to foam…]

 Anyone who has done this, I'd be keen to hear from you... 



          cheers ! 



            'chip'

there will be individual colors where the colors break. You might get a little greenish color at the very edge blend, but using pigments and tints in combination is a good idea. Your yellow pigment, if you use enough, will block out the blue from being transparent. Remember you can completely pigment out a surfboard with just 1 layer of cloth and come color, so a 10 panel run of cloth will be a total eclipse. Go for it it, will look really cool.

-Jay

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there will be individual colors where the colors break. You might get a little greenish color at the very edge blend, but using pigments and tints in combination is a good idea. Your yellow pigment, if you use enough, will block out the blue from being transparent. Remember you can completely pigment out a surfboard with just 1 layer of cloth and come color, so a 10 panel run of cloth will be a total eclipse. Go for it it, will look really cool.

-Jay

hi again !

…just as an update on this for anyone who may be interested…

the 10 layers of yellow pigment managed to make the ten plus layers of ‘blue tint’ either side green !! [different coloured greens, as well!]

I’m about to cut out the fins, then the job of foiling…

IF I can figure how to send photos, I’d like to be able to send a couple… before and after type shots, perhaps ?

…Do I just type the message, then hit 'upload attachment ', select the photo[s] wanted from the ‘my pictures’ section of my computer, or is it more complicated than that ?

I hope it’s easy, because I am a complete goober when it comes to computer stuff.

Anyway, the thing I learnt, [as you said ‘Resinhead’], was how little pigment totally blocks [in my case, CHANGES !] the other colours.

For anyone else who may have been considering combining tint[s] and pigment[s] in a fin panel, I'd go with either only one layer of pigmented cloth, or else, maybe, a few layers of white pigment to separate the tint and pigment colours . 

…anyone else got any thoughts / experience of this / suggestions on this ? I’d be very keen to hear from you …

      cheers ! 



       'chip'

um… what happened ? I got crossed out …

hope I didn’t say something ‘wrong’?

anyway, you’re welcome to read ALL that last post , I think ?

‘chip’

What kind of tints and pigments do you use to color the resin?

And did you let the layer of glass kick completely before starting the next color/tint?

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What kind of tints and pigments do you use to color the resin?

the tint we get here in westoz is toothpaste tube stuff … a little goes a LONG way [I think I’ll be tinting boards and fins blue FOREVER !!]

The pigments are sold in a jar…paste-like goo which also goes a long long way. The yellow pigment I used was a mustard kind of colour, the blue tint was a nice turquoisey kind of shade.

I now [unintentionally] have an aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi coloured darker green on the outside, mustard yellow middle, and lighter green inside coloured  'jogger' [little runner]. 



 The layers of lam resin stayed tacky between coats. I did five layers at a time. Started with ten blue , when I layed down the cloth on the glass. 



 It would be interesting for my next one to do say five clear layers, then five blue, then five white pigment ,and repeat that pattern...to see if I then get proper blue colour [or whatever other colour tint I may buy in the future !] 



I hope to be able to work out how to send a shot or two . I pick up the roll tomorrow, have to see if any look worthy of scanning... 



        ben

Sorry chipfish i should have been more specific. Are these tints specifical made for coloring resin or do you borrow colors from some other process for your use?

hi wahoo !

yes, I buy them from a fibreglass suppliers store [boat and surfboard builders]. The pigments cost $15aus for about 250ml [a cupful?] and the tint about the same price, but toothpaste tube sized.

But, as I mentioned, they go a LONG way !!

‘chip’

…sorry, following on… I forgot to mention , today I got the photos back of the ‘jogger’ [little runner] I’ve made so far.

If someone could please tell me how I post shots here …I’d like to send a shot if anyone’s interested in seeing the attempt ?

…thanks !

    'chip'
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…sorry, following on… I forgot to mention , today I got the photos back of the ‘jogger’ [little runner] I’ve made so far.

If someone could please tell me how I post shots here …I’d like to send a shot (or two or three )… if anyone’s interested in seeing the attempt ?

…thanks !

‘chip’ o-k-a-y then, sorry about the delay… since a couple of people pm’ed … attached , a couple of shots. 1. panel [pre cutting] 2. and one pretty much finished “jogger” [small runner]. 3. shown on board, also. I MAY leave them thick at the moment, this is one from the back runner pair [four runners, and a 6" back [box] fin ] for a bonzer 5 fin type setup , on a 5’11 fish of mine. The front pair are deeper, longer based and thinner foiled so far. The front pair are clear fibreglass. I hope to finish them all within the next week or so, and get in a few test runs by the end of september… ‘chip’ green and yellow runner:- 3 3/4" base, 2" depth, c 1/2" rake. The thing these shots don’t really show well is the little turquoisey coloured flecks in the outsde layers. When the sun hits it at the right angle, almost a mother of pearl effect ! (be interesting to see if my mate’s whiz-bang you beaut digital camera’s macro lens could capture that effect one day !!)