pinlines

hi guys .

ok hear goes.

when doing resin swirls how do you get the deck to have a neat outline.

i no the neater the cut in the cloth the better .but the outline pen? posca/zig?

im in australia do we have these pens if so where.

plus can anyone give me a diagram on how to cut the diferent tail designs for glassing (square/round/fish/swallow ect ect) .

the bacis idea of my board is to have a resin swirl on the bottom with a plain white deck with black outline.

anyhelp would be great .

thanx.

danny

if you tape an even outline on the deck and weight for the glass to get tackie cut along the tape line with a razor blade

i use Rich Harbour’s method…you can see a video of it on his website…Liquitex acryllic paint straight out of the tube…put it on over the hotcoat, then gloss over it.

is it bad i painted strain on to the foam so it’s under all the glass? i hope so the stringer has some paint on it tail nose but it’s only kinda a hue i sanded it off.

Clean pinlines start with a clean shape. Smooth rail crowns without warbles, dips and high spots are a good start. Smooth lamination and cutlaps are the next step. Sanding with a longblock helps keep the hotcoat bump-free. Laying out even one line of tape can drive you crazy - getting it right on both sides followed by the second tape line 1/8" away from the first can give you eye strain. My hat is off to the specialists who turn out the perfect Gucci boutique pinline jobs. Good luck!

hey thanx for the replys guys.

has help heaps

just a few more questions to ask but ill do that when i get them worked out (how to word them ).

thanx.

dan

The best tip on pinlines I’ve read came from Austin: Lay down 3 pieces of 1/4" tape, peel up the middle one.

So simple, like the jitterbug, it plumb evaded me.

I also use the 3-piece tape method for both painted and resin pins. If you paint and use acrylic straight from the tube, you need to run a narrow piece of squeegee over it (they also do that in the Harbour video). You need to get the right tape since that controls the thickness of the finished layer of paint.

Danny, you can get poscaa pens from spotlight. these shops are all over oz, use the blue tape you can buy at paint shops, ask the local panel beater where he gets his stuff from, that was advice to me from a guru when I started, Kmart have a pen line much like posca if you find them tell me.

Danny, you can get Poscas and Zigs in OZ. Most Art stores will carry poscas as well as Officeworks. I also found some Zig pens at Bunnings in the Arty/Crafty bit. Have used them on my last two boards (in archives) , but if you use them directly onto the foam don’t press too hard as it will cause a groove in the foam and air bubbles later when you laminate.

hey guys ive done the resin swirl have done the cutlap so now going to spotlight to get me some poscas this pinline will probly be a thick one as this is the first cutlap ive done just hope it works.

thanx all for the info .ill post the final pics so you can see what you have helped with.

reguards

dan

Danny;

I just finished my first resin pinline over a cutlap and it worked out really well. I made the mistake of pulling the tape too late, but was able to fix it using some sandpaper with a razor blade (per Jim Phillips and Roger Brucker). Make sure you pull the tape when the resin is still wet. I think it makes a big difference to strain the mixture. Attached are some photos showing the sanded finished board, the painted resin pinline, and the finished product. Good Luck!



…after you do the posca pen pinlines you should sand them with 2500 grit then gloss or lacquer…

I no this sounds silly but why do you have to sand the posca & do you meen gloss coat(resin) for my finish i have most of the time used 4000 to 8000 grit this brings the finish up the best that ive found some times no need for polish.

thanx for the help .

dan

Howzit danny, I think the reason some might sand the posca is because after you pull the tape there is a slight raised edge where the tape was. I use a wallpaper seam roller to prees down those edges and it does the job. If the edges are to thick it interupts the flow of the gloss resin and can make a separation in the gloss.Aloha,Kokua

hey that sounds like a good idea thanx .

ill do that on the next one

i taped the pinline for posca but still got bleed under the tape so now the clean up starts (looks like tis gona be a wide line )hehehehehehe.

Thanx all for the help.

dan

howzit danny, First after you lay down the tape use a ice cream stick or your finger nail to press the tape down. Also as you apply the Posca use 1 hand for the Posca and follow with a heat gun in the other hand to quick dry which will stop the bleeding.Aloha,Kokua

“… Laying out even one line of tape can drive you crazy - getting it right on both sides followed by the second tape line 1/8” away from the first can give you eye strain. My hat is off to the specialists who turn out the perfect Gucci boutique pinline jobs. Good luck!"

BOB COOPER … [1970’s ]

kokua sir you are a god

Thanx for the heads up on the heat gun.

it worked a treat.

once the board is totaly finished ill post a pic.

Thanx all.

Dan

Hi guys

hey i hope the pic comes out ok for you to see anyway have a look let me no what ya reckon had to do some freehand but with all the info that i got from you Dudes it all worked out pritty ok for my first one.

all thats left to do is Finish coat & its complete.

Thanx.

dan.