Ha! Ha! Won’t always be that way.
We’re firing this up again for the 2019 Boardroom Show, bigger and better. Any information coming my way is appreciated, this thread is a major contributor to the info gathering. Check one of the links below if you have FB. Or insta @gcoopa
2019 Boardroom Skil Show Outline
Pre Skil100 History-
*Skilsaw Inc and Skil77
*Mall Planers Type1-2
Skil100 timeline (1952-1984)-
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*190 “SKILSAW INC” 5.5A
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*190 “SKIL CORP” 5.5A
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*676 “SKILSAW INC” 5.5A
4.***676 “SKIL CORP” (no patent)
- *676 “SKIL CORP” (patent#)
6 .—- 190 Type2?? (A732860-2904)
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**100 Type1 (A967001-7365)
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***100 Type2 “no type” 5.5A
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*100 Type2 “A” 5.5A
10.*100 Type2 “C” 5.5A
11.*100 Type3 “C” 5.5A
12.*100 Type3 “D” 5.5A
13.—-100 Type4 “E” 5.5A
14.*100 Type4 “F” 5.5A
15.—-100 Type4 ”E” 7.5A
16.—-100 Type4 “F” 7.5A
17.*100 Type4 “H” 7.5A
18.—-100 Type4 “H” Black/Red
19.—-100 Type4A “H” Black/Red
20.*100 Type5 “K” Black/Red
Timeline planers include original cases.
Mod planers-
*GC Type4 VonVels
*GC 653 VonVels
*GC Type3 VBot Custom
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Snyder 653
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Woollybear Skil
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More —>
Shaper’s planers-
-Lance Carson 7.5 inscribed/receipt
-Brom shorty
*Liddle’s Type3 “D”
Others—>
Displays will be storyboard supported
Where would the “No Type” fit into your scenario?? And are any of those designated A, B etc?..
Hi Lowell, “No Type” is something we coined at the first show because there was no “Type” designated on the badge. The majority are actually Skil100 Type2s according to the Skil data sheet, they’re #8 on my list. The exception is A967001-7365 which are also “No Type” Model 100s but are actually Type1 and very rare (365 or less of those made), these are #7 on my list.
Type1’s have the 676/190 style cutter head and the lesser-reinforced foot. Type2 thru Type4 have the newer head and foot configuration. 4A and 5 have a different head with the thin modern double sided carbide blades. Note also that the earliest 190/676s were made before the company’s name change and say Skilsaw Inc. on the badge, these have almost no reinforcement in the foot.
All “No Types” were made between 1955 and 1959 and all carried “A” serial#s. Then the early ones that were badged “Type2” were also “A”. It was 1960 or so that the first “C” numbers were seen.
We’ve learned all that but still don’t know definitively what “A”, “C”, “D”, “E”, “F”, “G”, “H”, “J” or “K” really means other than how it corresponds to Types and dates. Maybe where the motor was made or who made it according to Pete. I really hope to someday see some dated material containing to nuts and bolts on that subject.
Nice work! Isn’t there a European version as well? Noticed the data sheet listed sone as 115v and some as spec, leads me to wonder how early they made a 220v variant…
ps I just found a 5.5a no type (with patent number), s/n a980152, do you plan to keep adding s/n ranges to your database?
Keith, there WAS an european version in 220 V. Ten or fifteen years ago I was lucky to score mine on french “Le Bon Coin” (which is the french equivalent of your Craiglist) for 60 €… The guy who sold it to me was worried that I would pay SO MUCH since the blades needed sharpening… Obviously he had never been to E-Bay and had not seen how much a Skil 100 would go for… Here are photos of my 220 V Skil 100, been using it ever since and only changed the belt, brushes and bearings once. Now, I’m not a production guy, either.
I will have to watch the numbers more closely in the future for no other reason than curiosity. Pete and I sold one recently and I have one in my shop that is a “No Type”. I’ve hung onto two Type 4 that I like very much and use regularly. One with blades and one a Grit barrel. One of them is probably the only Skil out of 10 or 15 that have come thru my shop that was ever previously used by a surfboard shaper- It had a shortened base and Balsa dust((no foam). It came out of Arizona. If only Skil 100”s we’re equipped with vocal chords. They could talk story. Great research and work that you have done. Much appreciated. Lowel
Lowel, agreed.
Gene, thanks for the clearing up the mystery on the unmarked Type 2’s.
At some point I’ll sit down and put together known serial# ranges. As far as manufacturing/purchase dates corresponding to #s that might be tougher.
So far I have 4 word of mouth:
1959 Type2 “A”code (sways)
1964 Type3 “C” (Thrilkeld)
1968 Typ3 “D” (Liddle)
1976 Type4 (L. Carson)
Anybody that has a receipt, sale order, or memory of specific dates that go with a particular planer let me know. Thanks
At some point I’ll sit down and put together known serial# ranges. As far as manufacturing/purchase dates corresponding to #s that might be tougher.
So far I have 4 word of mouth:
1959 Type2 “A”code (sways)
1964 Type3 “C” (Thrailkill)
1968 Typ3 “D” (Liddle)
1976 Type4 (L. Carson)
Anybody that has a receipt, sale order, or memory of specific dates that go with a particular planer let me know. Thanks
Correct spelling, T H R A I L K I L L.
Sorry, pretty sloppy
Aloha Gene,
the oldest, original form of the name is T H R E L K E L D, derived from the Village of Threlkeld, in Northern England. So, you were close.
The Skil 676 we’re first offered in 1952 when the company was still “Skilsaw Inc” and the 1952 badge had that name on it. Later that same year the name of the company was changed to “Skil Corp” so new badges were made. A year or so later it was determined that the patent # needed to be added, so the badge was redesigned again. You can approximately determine the year of a 676 by what’s on the badge. None of the 676’s have serial#s.
Skil Inc = 1952
Skil Corp no patent# = 1953
Skil Corp patent# = 1954
The 190’s have a similar story but with just two badges. On those the patent# and “Skil Corp” were both added on the second badge design.
In 1955 the Skil 100 replaced the 676 and 190 so that was the end of those.
I know Wayne better than Gary but I didn’t know WollyBear had a mod distinctly his own. Or does he?
Woolly’s personal planer is slightly modified and pinstriped.
Gary has had a nice collection of pinstripes in the past. The cars weren’t too shabby either.
The Skil Planer Timeline is on for May4&5. Here’s an overview of the line-up, 1952 to 1984. The white boxes represent the ones I don’t have. The people at Skil don’t have any information about dates/codes/numbers prior to 1980 so I’m always looking for first hand information or original documentation.
