Printer ink / rice paper question

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Hey guys been building my first board and am now trying to make a lam and then glass

i have been searching about printing lams on rice papers in the archives but havent found what I was looking for so my question is

 

I know i need to use pigment ink since dye ink will run when i apply my epoxy but I cant figure out if my printers are pigment or not im thinking not i tried just printing off some pictures on normal paper and adding water to see if it runs will this actully tell me or not? I have a lexmark x3350, HP photosmart 2575, Canon MP210

I read that the photo printers were morelikely to use non dye inks.

also want it to be color

Any input of how i can tell or sugestions would be great thanks.

 

 

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You've already been on the right track ..

print your logo , laminate it on a scrap piece of foam , see what happens!

if the ink doesn't run you're safe.  the only thing you need to take into consideration is colour fading in the sun.

most printers use colour inks that will fade over time but their black ink usually doesn't fade.

If you got some Xtra $$ , buy an Epson printer, they have DuraBrite inks that never fade.

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only have 2 peices of rice paper lol didnt wana waste it :smiley:

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I’ve never made my own, get them printed but speedneedle did a post about making your own and spraying them with something to stop the ink running.  Look that thread up.

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     Howzit krep, The lexmark won't have pigment ink. the HP or the Canon may have it though, Epsons Durabrite ink is pigment ink that is also called archival ink. The other thing is get more rice paper since even if you have the right printer and ink sometimes the printer likes to eat the paper. I used to do lams for lots of builders and as many as 400 a month and there was always paper that migh not feed into the printer just right. Aloha,Kokua

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thanks Kokua

is there a way to tell i have read all the cartragies and boxes nothing really says what they actully are very frustrating

 

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    Howzit krep, Most black ink is pigment and that includes Lexmark, it's the colored ink that is dye ink. The best way is to find the printer brands online and contact hem and ask if they have printers that use pigment colored ink in any of their printers. Some refill kits now use pigment ink and it will say so on the box but you don't want to ust go and put pigment ink in an empty dye ink cartridge. I think looking into photo printers would be the first choice. I am sure that Epson makes more printers that use pigment ink than any other brand. Second would be Canon, after those 2 the other brands may haveonly 1 or 2 printers using pigment ink. I had an epson C80 them a C82 but they had other issues to deal with after lots of use but were an easy fix. the paper feeder is another thing to consider, but like I said I did hundreds a month and sometimes over 100 in one sit down. Aloha,Kokua

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glad to see your still on since its starting to get late on the west coast

thanks again

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Ooo after digging around a bit i found out that the normal coloured ink that comes with the Canon PIXMA MP210 is not pigmented but they do sell one that is for that model so i guess ill go try and find that tomorrow knowing my luck they wont carry it in stores.

CL-31 Canon (OEM)
Original Pigment Color inkjet cartridge w/ printhead for PIXMA iP1800/
iP2600/ MP 140/ MP 210/ MP 470/ MX 300/ MX 310 inkjet printer

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    Howzit krep I am in Az these days but have been a late night person for years due to working in the restaurant business. Aloha,Kokua

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Krep, i have a lexmark 4580, “cheap one”. I have printed Black only designs on rice paper. Never had a problem except when i printed a label and didnt wait for the ink to dry. I usally print my design let it sit for a day. Atlhough my design is basic,no color, no thick black borders, lines etc.

 

 

 

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hey - did mine using tissue paper and a laser printer - worked a treat as long as you back up the tissue onto normal paper so it feeds. as it was laser, it was toner so no seepage under the resin. by wetting out the tissue paper onto the board before laminating meant the tissue went invisible

edit - by backing up i mean stick the tissue onto normal printer paper with a glue stick round the edge = then it will feed through the printer

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nice job i never thought to use tissue paper though. I would have though it would be even harder to print on since it ripes more easily then the rice paper i have

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    Howzit krep, You can use tracing paper on clear boards. Aloha,Kokua