Thanks for everything Herb. You definitley were the most important person in getting me into this mess. Now because of you I drive 8 hours to hang out with a bunch of old guys who all surf better than me. The tools you gave us are all being used regularily along with your tips. The school thing has casued me to cutback on swaylocks too so I know the feeling. When I drive up pch I look for your truck everytime I go past the beach. Me and my mates bring your name up in conversations on a weekly basis too. Darren
ps. I am glad you are cuttign back on your computer time before you cut into your surfing and skating time.