Been thinking about how this three components interact with each other as the water passes during a turn. Seems to me, that a thick board with low/hard rails would catch a lot independent of the deck design, not sure if thats correct. What I have in mind, is to make the board thinner, with a flatter deck, increasing tail rocker. Not sure about lenght and width yet. This design would be for 3ft normal waves (not hollow nor rolling). Yet, most of the surfboards I made uses pretty soft rails, so I have doubts about creating this design which is most for high performance. Appreciate any ideas and thoughts, have a great week!
did shapaholic get a new username?
I’m new so I don’t understand this joke! Anyway, appreciate any ideas about the topic!
Ha ha. Thought the same thing two threads ago, but I didn’t have the heart to ask it.
Honestly, I feel like i’m not welcome here, I don’t understand why, and I don’t know who the hell is this shapaholic. Yes, I love surfing, I live upon this, i’m new to shaping both pratical and theoric, and yes this forum would help me a lot. But apparently there is some sort of localism in here, which is a shame.
Grow some skin and don’t get all in a huff because no one, or very few jump up to engage your discussion topics. You’re asking for opinions, for black and white answers to mostly subjective design theory, many things that would make zero difference if the person (either asking or replying) learned how to stand on a surfboard yesterday. And all of which has been beaten to death here a thousand times. No biggie because it will always be this way as long as there are people seeking info. Do your research - We are so lucky to have Swaylocks - it is a huge resource at your fingertips, and everything has been done before in some way or another.
I don’t believe that thin rails catch unless they are poorly shaped. If the surfer has the ability, then a thin rail performs better than a puffy one (within reasonable thinness, of course).
What does happen is that the lip landing on the rail will affect thin rails more and make them less stable in some critical situations.
Also when you do a roundhouse into the foam the thin rails will sink easier into the foam so you’ll end up deeper behind the pitching line for the next bottom turn. Mostly a good thing.
Rail to rail is quicker if the rails are not fighting weight transitions.
Flat deck, thin rails you have to manage flex and strength because the board needs some doming for strength and to manage flex.
Thin tail sinks easier, so great for guns and when you want to have width but still achieve fast response to weight shifts. Again not for beginners.
Thank you red_board. Bud, honestly I don’t believe is subjective as people say, eighter catch or don’t, I know is difficult to measure, but a forum exists to discuss this ideas. I know that new people can be annoying but peharps in the future I can give useful insights to other people, but okay I get what you are saying and I will not raise as many topics.
New members should read the very first thread before posting questions. They should also spend time using the search function to look for information. If you spend the time searching for stuff, you’ll find almost everything has been discussed more than a few times.
To close the topic, sharkcountry, I read the rules and I stick to them. And I used the search, but I found no discussion that relate the three design components togheter, only separeted topics on flat deck, rails, etc… Not trying to make this thread longer, just want to defend myself. Sorry for other users about this posts related to forum usage. Have a good week.
Spelling is way too good to be Shapaholic. Lol
I’m not sure if I have ever seen a thick board with low hard rails? I mean I ride 3" thick boards, but use medium rails, with a hard edge out the last 18" or so. The front rails are soft. I catch rails all the time, but its operator error…not the design. Sometimes I push too hard trying to be naughty with the wave.
Even my beastly Dick Brewers are down rail…but not so hard in the edge.
There are those stepped rail things http://surf.transworld.net/1000074126/features/surf-science-whats-in-a-deck/
I’ll get around to doing one for someone who is somewhat chunnky one of these days.