hey all,
Okay I searched all the posts and couldnt find an answer. How do you take a surfboard shape you’ve built and replicate it to be shaped by a CNC routing machine. Can you scan it into a computer?
Mike
magic
There may be a few here who could answer. Otherwise, you are likely to get flamed by most.
I suggest doing a Google search with these words:
scanning objects for cnc
scanning objects for 3-D printing
3-D scanning
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Hi,
3sec google search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnLBXBG_Jr4
http://www.precisionshaper.com/Home.html
As StoneBurner said, the only way to do it “perfectly” is using a 3d scanner and the corresponding software.
Another much easier option is to design your board on shape3D or equivalent soft and to produce CNC outputs…
Ok so the two links are awesome. So how do I find someone to scan a board for me?
We’ll you guys were right, just needed to do a little research. I found two that do both scanning and milling of blanks.
http://www.precisionshaping.com/services/
anyone heard of them?
I know fiberglass Hawaii in ventura have told me they can do it, or can have it done, but I wasn’t interested at the time, so I never asked for more info.
Any CNC cutting house can map or if they have a scanner; 3D scan the board. If you take enough accurate measuremants, you can also use a program like AKU to create a close facsimile and then create a file that can be forwarded to a cutter. There are at least a half dozen CNC machiunes in O’side. A few in San Clemente. A couple in Santa Cruz. One in Pacifica. Aloha Glass can direct you to someone in the Hunungton area. Marko has two machines. Millenium and Arctic also cut. Lowel
Thanks guys.
I talked to Paragon Milling today and got all the info. I’m going to try it! sound like a great way to replicate and design you like!
Yeah, Danes a nice guy.
Won’t sell your file like some others do.
I was really impressed, He’s gave me all the skoop. He sounded like he really new his stuff? Plus this new board I shaped is amazing. I can’t believe how great it rides. So I want to save it. Can you copy right a design?
Short answer, no.
Barry’s answer is probably best… too many variables in a surfboard copyright to make it viable. Change the stringer or the density or the composition of the foam… or an 1/8" or a 1/16th or a 1/72 somewhere and argue that it fundamentally changes the design. Pretty much no one bothers. After a lengthy negotiation with a potential distributor at one point I found one of my shapes in their catalogue… down to the ripped-off fireball resin swirl. Happily for me, those were the early days of scanners and then their Chinese friends got it wrong in production, especially on the rocker.
Without wanting to hijack a basic question, I maintain that responsible machine use has a role. I have exactly two shapes that I’ve kept on file, both magic boards that were hand-shaped by me, that are pretty much there as a just-in-case, if I lose an eye or a bunch of fingers or who know what. A few years ago I had one of them machined for a friend when I was working flat out on my thesis and couldn’t get my head into shaping a board. Heck, I couldn’t even get my head into a lunch break.
Anyway, stoked for you that your welcome-back board is a good one. Have a reputable place scan it as a base for some future boards if you’d like, one that understands the whole process, from scanning to proper blank selection and milling. And knowing that it’ll pretty much never be quite the same due to differences in the blank including stringer wood and the day you glass it.
Enjoy.
Most copy rights and patents are only as good as the Lawyer you can afford to hire.
I know it’s a pain but the copyright laws are different than Patents. I hold two patents and have learned a lot about that world. But don’t know as much about copyrights. To my knowledge a copyright is a design and it should at least make them think twice about ripping it off. It was just a thought as I learned with both of my patents it generally isn’t worth the money spent, as you said, somebody will find a way to rip it off anyway. Besides I need to really wring this board out in all kinds of waves and make sure I don’t find something I’d like to change, but I don’t think so.
…why you asking questions about board building if you are planning to send a file to the machine?
What s people here in this forum have to do with the machine? This is one of the last surfboards bastion that remain; plenty of other places in which you can follow the machine and the businessmen.
Because I would like to have it saved if I needed it! I will always shape my boards but it never hurts to have a backup or plan B.
Show us the board!!
You wouldn’t be Trolling Capt Mike, its a sensitive topic?
Just shape another one!!
Did you trip over the planner and accidently make a perfect board never to be repeated again? WTF?
Okay, this is likey my last post of this topic because it is a sensitive one and I don’t feel like arguing, but I really don’t get it at the amateur level.
I’ve not shaped a lot of boards. Maybe 500 and some odd total. From solid balsa to chambered balsa, from rough lumber to various blanks, PU and Poly, maybe two dozen compsands. Huge blocks of EPS. One meter long pieces of balsa with crazy scarf joints. Recycled lumber projets… paipos, alaias… you get the picture. Overwhelmingly by hand. In other words, I love hand shaping.
I like trying things out. Developing my technique with my big Hitachi (thanks Balsa!) or the great-grandfather’s drawknife and planes. Having a few accidents. I’ve shaped balsa boards with a hand plane just to do it. Dig all those curly-cues.
I also have two shapes on a machine file. One I’ve had cut several times, one never. The rare times I’ve had a blank cut, it suited the purpose at hand when I couldn’t do it by hand. Health reasons, you bet. Work reasons, once, like I said. So Captain Mike is stoked? So he’d like to get a scan and have the possibility of reproducing a shape he’s fired up on… what’s the problem? It doesn’t mean he’ll stop hand shaping according to what he’s said. I used to love color laminating, but never got angry about guys doing infusion and the possible detrimental effect on the art of a clean hand lamination.
Anyway, if you want to discuss it as a business, then we have another issue entirely. I’ve seen the rip-off artists and the no-skill-set so-called surf brand insta-wannabe’s and would agree with you 100%, but not in this case.
Sorry for the lengthy rant. I probably type faster than I speak and the better part of a decent bottle of wine is what it is. But I’m just stoked to see someone getting back into building boards.
Carry on.