I can agree with some of this and I do watch out for the little bloke. But I’m not in Aus.and it’s Daves call. He wants to wholesale. It’s the biz he wants to do. If there’s demand for the product (and from this tread I’m guessing there is) then why doesn’t someone who retails get into it. No one wants the biz? And everyones complaining? This makes very little sense to me. I’m here, I have good stuff, I’ll sell to anyone. It’s not like I’m holding anything back. Seems like an oppritunity to me. There are Aussie businessmen who are rolling in dough … 2500US investment gets you in the game and everyone can be happy. WTF
hey greg
i live on an island the distribution would be a nightmare
i will pass that on.
lots of poeple prbly read your thread which by the way is a very cunning advertising pimp.
but you are not on your own ha’’
so i guess they would like to try your resin. but then you come on and defend this idiot policy
its arrogance greg full stop… w t f
where is the oz distributor based?? i can't even find a web address for them..any ideas?
id be happy to handle the distributor retail queries..looking after small time operators, sending small orders with good service and advice...making customers happy. the customer is always right...keep em happy...they pay your bills and for your indo trips!
greg- do you not have a say/preference how your products are distributed, considering the way its sold etc may effect the overall success of the product?? just curious...i thought you would have been able to set guidelines within the agreement??
I am more than happy with the epoxies I been using for many years , and the foams (both eps and pu) . I would not outlay good money on anything else , unless it was demonstrated for free, that the new product is better than what I use now...........simple !
I sell to retailers and wholesalers and do OEM as well. They get to decide about what they do and how they do it. We are in 15 different countries and every one has it’s own way of distributing. Even in the US the east coast is completely different from the west coast. And the NE is different again from the SE … wayyyy different. I trust that the distributor knows more about his market than I do. Gotta do it that way … I’m not McDonalds.
For all the complaints here, has anyone here tried to buy a gallon of resin from Dow? Riechold? Huntsman? Silmar? Give em call and see what they say. Fact is you can buy a quart from me. Not to say I’m Dow, but I do try to take care of everyone I can. And the way you buy from Dow? You buy from a distributor or retailer who had the balls to buy some good material and make it available to the retail market. That’s the way business works. No one steps up, we all loose. And it ain’t a lot of money that’s stopping this. Why do you think Midget doesn’t have it Huie? I’ve talked with him.
I’m not joining the it’s greg’s fault that he isn’t controlling his distributors business model, but the distrubutor has left himself wide open for someone else with both wholesale and retail distribution to setup as competition and cut Dave and his costs out of the loop altogether.
Photographic equipment in this country used to be a classic case, it was possible to buy on the net at retail from OS and pay shipping and 22% - 32% sales tax and duty (prior to the GST) cheaper than locally. Grey market imports are everywhere now and some big distributorships have disappeared as a result.
Japanese tourists used to come here to do their shopping for domestic Japanese goods as they were cheaper here than at home, because of the multiple levels of distribution adding costs and markups.
Why would anyone purchase from Dave to do retail and incur his costs.
This siutation strikes me as being familiar.
The next little guy that’s using a product has all the potential of becoming a big guy with all of it’s subsequent benefits to his suppliers. Everyone had to start somewhere. Or some locally made on-offs might spark enough interest to persuade the local manufacturers to change their workflows.
Surfing is very organic in that sense as there’s continual cross pollination as things evolve.
When I was sanding twenty years ago, the place where I was working were making light weight moulded glass on fins. Maybe they weren’t unique in that, but I still see them as being precusors to the light weight, foam core glass on fins around now.
Also from reading a huge number of topics on this forum (thanks to all the pople who freely share their knowledge BTW) It’s Gregs personal approach that has me as part of his fan club.
Personally I’d like to shake the mans hand and say thankyou for the information he’s shared on things not directly related to his resin, the WMD compsand work for starters.
I still want to try his resin though I might have to wait a little longer it seems.
greg
please dont take offence at my comments anyway, im merely having a opinion for what its worth, and i certainly dont fully understand the intricacies of business modelling etc etc. Would have been nice to see the distributor upholding your values/service given he is distributing your product and reputation that your product has been built around...but i do understand there needs to be some flexibility for each area/market whatever.
perhaps he may read these posts and give it some consideration?!
and yes, thanks for your input and advice given on sways!
Just caught Gregs comment about Midget - not wanting to distribute. That’s curious as I’ve read an actual comment on this forum about his blanks and epoxy being in his opinion the most durable PU based boards possible.
So maybe has has polled his cusotomers and run the numbers and found that things just aren’t viable here right now. We don’t have the Clark closure dictating change so there’s inertia there for sure.
His business is primarily blanks, though I would have thought most everyone anticipate epoxy as an inevitable change, or maybe I am just being too forward thinking
A sane voice. Thanks. Polyester resin will eventually be gone. Your government is already actively going after it. So is ours. Epoxy will be the future and perhaps Midget is just now getting around to reality. Nice to hear. It was a couple years ago and maybe he didn’t see it then. Wait till he sees KK on his blanks. I have … its the sh!t.
Sorry again but not my policy. But I’ll still respect anyones right to run their business they way they want to.
Never had any problems buying RR in NZ. Maybe it’s the Australian sun? Kinetix worked nicely for me as well if that helps. Try Shapers if you want to use Kinetix instead.
I agree on not the not so structurally sound side of things. I believe they also used to make their plastic fins (and plugs) from regrinded plastic?
Howzit resinhead, I guess here on Kauai we are lucky because the rep will sell to anyone who wants Greg's epoxy. As one who has owned both wholesale and retail businesses I have to say that retailers make more money due to their markup % where a wholeseller has to do more volume due to a lower %.. Aloha,Kokua
Our guy on Kauai is one of the best. Topper is just a guy who makes some nice boards and sells resin for us. Takes real good care of a small but important market.
"i live on an island the distribution would be a nightmare"
Hi Huie -
May I assume this is yours and not a quote of someone else? Maybe you answer your own question???
35C that’s 95F. That’s a 20 minute flip time. Not 20 minutes from the end of the laminate … 20 minutes from the start. Lace up those boots tight … you’ll be runnin. As fast as sun cure poly at that temp… Yea, KK hopefully soon.
so sarcasim is the only answer? i thought as much
john mellor your going to get a gravell rash please get up