Im getting nasea(sp) reading and searching through this forum all day. I feel like ive read everything on this board… but still have a few questions. When doing the resin swirl, how would you get the colors to show like this guy did the in board below? A batch of blue and white resin, but which of more would you have? and which would touch the foam first? I read that the first, and darker colors will show thorugh more then the lighter ones. After watching the austin video I got a pretty good understanding of how to do the bottom and seal the top off, but how do you get that pinline afterwards? do you do it after you lam the deck or between the hot and gloss coat? Also, how do you go about swirling the deck after doing the bottom and now having the glass screw up the freelapped swirl from the bottom? do you swirl just the foam and then do the lam job over it? Help is always appreciated, ive been reading and just wanna make sure I do it all right. Thanks
One way would be to do the lighter, deck swirl first, lapped to the bottom, either cut lap or free lap. Then the darker bottom swirl will completely hide it where it laps over to the deck cut lap.
Another way would be to do the deck swirl on the foam, taped off at the deck side rail. Then lam the bottom swirl with cut lap, and glass the deck clear with free lap.
The deck swirl is light enough for UV resin, but on the bottom I’d likely add half-strength catalyst just to be sure.
Pinlines can be done with Posca pens, or if you search for “pinline” or “resin pinline” I’m sure you’ll find lots of info, so I won’t repeat it here. Pinlines are generally done with colored resin on a 220 grit wet sanded hot coat, then finish coated over. Classic pinlines often leave a little bump or ridge, but not always.
Thanks honolulu, I knew about posca pens but I wasnt sure if they worked on the glass itself. *Edit… think im gonna stick to the posca method for now… not to fond of the elevated resin line… *
Also, where can you get UV catalist? the place im gonna order my resin from doesnt have it http://www.shopmaninc.com/solvents.html
Also when the free lap is dried cut along it to finish it off right, to get the clean design? If I were to lam the deck first with the swirl, should I tape off the bottom like you would the top ?
Lam the bottom first. Cut lap about 2" onto deck. If you do not have a cut lap tool make one. Now mask off the rails and swirl the deck as an “inlay”. Sand smooth and do a 4oz free lap over the deck inlay wrapping all the way around the rail. Hot coat,sand. Air brush pin line before gloss coat.
What do you mean by cut lap tool? any pics or how to makes? if I were to not do the top I planned on lapping about 2inches on the deck… dont wanna try going any farther…
So you did your deck first alone, doing just the foam?
Another thing, where are you guys ordereing your gloss resins from? that place near me doesnt seem to have it or the UV resin.
Thanks for all the help
Search archives and fourm for “cut lap”. also search for “cut lap tool”.
Lam bottom first. Do a cut lap.
Lam deck second.
Go surfing ,Have fun
Ray
good stuff …
I want to do this… keep the good info coming !
[and thanks for asking , Bob .]
ben
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Search archives and fourm for “cut lap”. also search for “cut lap tool”.
Lam bottom first. Do a cut lap.
Lam deck second.
Go surfing ,Have fun
Ray
Ah I see now. the same thing they used in that austin lap video… Could you use this tool to cut the dried lap after you flipped the board over?
Also does anyknow know you get that color pattern in that picture? would you lay the blue or white on first? what main color would you follow it all up with?
Take 24 oz of resin in a big pot, now take 1/2 of it and mix it with lots of blue pigment. Take the other half and mix it with lots of white pigment. Mix in 10 cc of catalyst per batch of resin. Pour blue resin into 1/2 an 8 oz Scooby Doo Dixie cup . You can choose your own cartoon hero if you like ( I prefer Scooby Doo) , now drizzle white resin into the dixie cup…fill to top. Repeat color mix until all dixie cups are full that would be aprox 3 cups + or -. Maybe you can do one with white first then put blue in it…it will amaze your friends. Now the pour. Simultaniously pour resin in a squiggly line, while pulling it with the squeegee. Try the dreadded straight speed pull, or possibly the zoro lighn’ bolt pattern…or maybe the circles of death with drops of red for enhancement…Presto your doing it. Save some resin for the rails. Turn the rails semi dry and go back over the dry spots with a different color of resin applied with a paint brush, then laminated down with the hard plastic bondo squeegee.
The trick is, the more you work the resin back and forth into the foam & glass the more you get subdued colors. So if your looking for an exact replica of the board above you can work it pretty good. If your looking for real defined bold colors, then you need to learn how to wet out, saturate and laminate in one or two pulls max. And that might take a few boards. Yes it is first color to hit the foam wins, but there are some limitations. If you go back over with another color…it will stick with some of that color.
Now you know all the tricks, were going to have to kill you now… Whats fun is go to a fancy glass shop and ask them how they do a swirl. Talking about the stink eye, scary top secret stuff. They won’t even tell you how to mix up orange pigment.
Now go laminate.
-Jay
You are the man… thank you 
